>> This is the second time someone here claims that I mean
>> the opposite of what I am actually writing. I hope it is
>> not some kind of dirty trick to make me look silly here?
>
> Of course not, it's just you writing messages
> containing contradictions.
No, I don't!!!
My answer to your last mail prove that. If it's
still your opinion that I contradict myself you
should try to prove it in a decent way in stead
of using this dirty tricks.
> Besides, you would look silly in any case.
Why??? Just because my opinion about Ludwigs background
differ from your opinion???
Sigvald
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Sigvald
Dirty tricks and silliness
Message 436 -
2002-11-21 at 23:44:31
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
Dirty tricks and silliness
Message 437 -
2002-11-22 at 00:23:21
Stefan Persson wrote:
> Besides, you would look silly in any case.
One might have one's opinions about other list members, but please keep
them off this list. DCML is not a place for personal attacks, and I
don't think a flame war would help anyone or do any good.
That's just my opinion, of course, but I hope others share it with me.
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
> Besides, you would look silly in any case.
One might have one's opinions about other list members, but please keep
them off this list. DCML is not a place for personal attacks, and I
don't think a flame war would help anyone or do any good.
That's just my opinion, of course, but I hope others share it with me.
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
Fabio Blanco
Characters from the Carioca Universe?
Message 438 -
2002-11-22 at 00:41:40
*************
Arqueiro mean Archer or Bowman... like in Green Archer. Is the Mysterious
Archer, that means...
By the way I love Jose Carioca comics...
I want knew more about tha "production" issue (maybe I am searching by a
job)
FABIO
from sunny Buenos Aires...
> Rosinha has apparently held a secret identity as Mulher-gatinha
(apparently
> a spoof of Batman's nemesis Catwoman) and as Arqueiro Misterioso (what
does
> "arqueiro" mean?). Does she use these disguises often (more than once?)
and
> how is she portrayed in the stories when she uses them? Is she a villain
> or hero?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rich Bellacera
>
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Arqueiro mean Archer or Bowman... like in Green Archer. Is the Mysterious
Archer, that means...
By the way I love Jose Carioca comics...
I want knew more about tha "production" issue (maybe I am searching by a
job)
FABIO
from sunny Buenos Aires...
> Rosinha has apparently held a secret identity as Mulher-gatinha
(apparently
> a spoof of Batman's nemesis Catwoman) and as Arqueiro Misterioso (what
does
> "arqueiro" mean?). Does she use these disguises often (more than once?)
and
> how is she portrayed in the stories when she uses them? Is she a villain
> or hero?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rich Bellacera
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> http://mail2web.com/ .
>
>
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DYER,SONIA (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Flibustier
Message 439 -
2002-11-22 at 00:51:07
Gilles wrote:
>his french accent is translated into speech with old and weird french
words... it's also a word employed by
>Captain Haddock from Herg=E9's TINTIN..
>so the exact definition is : pirate in american seas in the XVIIth and
>XVIIIth centuries by extension, it means rogue, deceiver,...AOL's
translation of the word is "pirate".
Thanks for the translation Gilles. I like what you said about Ludwig
using old and wierd words...that fits his personality very well.
Sonia
>his french accent is translated into speech with old and weird french
words... it's also a word employed by
>Captain Haddock from Herg=E9's TINTIN..
>so the exact definition is : pirate in american seas in the XVIIth and
>XVIIIth centuries by extension, it means rogue, deceiver,...AOL's
translation of the word is "pirate".
Thanks for the translation Gilles. I like what you said about Ludwig
using old and wierd words...that fits his personality very well.
Sonia
Goofy313g
Goofy Family Tree / Asa Duck / Silly tricks
Message 440 -
2002-11-22 at 00:56:03
Rich:
Sorry, we use to put a "s" at the end of "George" in French, but
I know that i shouldn't put it, it's just a silly mistake I often make....
about Glory-bee, I used the only picture i had of her, from a
journal de Mickey... so the color is a bit... French :-)
About the fact that Penny and Glory-bee aren't the same, you
may be right. I didn't know the characters so much...
I left the Goofy family tree and the mouse one to only take
care of and finish the duck one, but i'll return to them after
i finnish the Duck one, and about ophal dizzy, tessie and the
others, i'm already aware of their existence (i've made some
researches on INDUCKS), and i'm just waiting a bit...
Thank you for the informationas about Asa Duck, Simon and Harry,
i'll add him to my tree... that'd be cool if someone could provide
a scan of him :-)
About "Dirty tricks", I think it's going a bit too far, and you
should all stop, because you ALL look silly when you are sending
such messages here, and you are making all the dcmailers become
silly, and I don't want to be silly because...well... BECAUSE!!!!
Gilles Maurice :-)
Sorry, we use to put a "s" at the end of "George" in French, but
I know that i shouldn't put it, it's just a silly mistake I often make....
about Glory-bee, I used the only picture i had of her, from a
journal de Mickey... so the color is a bit... French :-)
About the fact that Penny and Glory-bee aren't the same, you
may be right. I didn't know the characters so much...
I left the Goofy family tree and the mouse one to only take
care of and finish the duck one, but i'll return to them after
i finnish the Duck one, and about ophal dizzy, tessie and the
others, i'm already aware of their existence (i've made some
researches on INDUCKS), and i'm just waiting a bit...
Thank you for the informationas about Asa Duck, Simon and Harry,
i'll add him to my tree... that'd be cool if someone could provide
a scan of him :-)
About "Dirty tricks", I think it's going a bit too far, and you
should all stop, because you ALL look silly when you are sending
such messages here, and you are making all the dcmailers become
silly, and I don't want to be silly because...well... BECAUSE!!!!
Gilles Maurice :-)
DYER,SONIA (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Grandma Duck
Message 441 -
2002-11-22 at 01:20:39
Regarding this "Grandma Duck" that Gilles has been good enough to post for
us:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/formergrandma.gif
- she is shown wearing the kind of clothing that would have been worn by
middle and upper class ladies in America around the year 1800, very old
fashioned indeed. See portraits of George Washington's wife Martha, as an
example of a grandmotherly figure from the time. The hat is called a mob
cap, and the shawl would have been worn tucked into the top of the dress, as
shown in the first panel (both would have been white, however, even at
Christmas time). The ladies then kept their very long hair coiled up under
the cap. The beehive hairdo we usually see on Grandma came in style later
on. I suspect this is the same Grandma, who has simply updated her
fashions, and put on a few extra pounds in more recent times.
Sonia
us:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/formergrandma.gif
- she is shown wearing the kind of clothing that would have been worn by
middle and upper class ladies in America around the year 1800, very old
fashioned indeed. See portraits of George Washington's wife Martha, as an
example of a grandmotherly figure from the time. The hat is called a mob
cap, and the shawl would have been worn tucked into the top of the dress, as
shown in the first panel (both would have been white, however, even at
Christmas time). The ladies then kept their very long hair coiled up under
the cap. The beehive hairdo we usually see on Grandma came in style later
on. I suspect this is the same Grandma, who has simply updated her
fashions, and put on a few extra pounds in more recent times.
Sonia
Arthur Faria Jr.
Gyro's Great Grandfather: not a Gearloose!
Message 442 -
2002-11-22 at 01:56:56
I wrote:
> > Just for information, "Neco" is a short for "Maneco", which
> > is a nickname for "Manoel". So, the real name of Neco Pardal
> > is actually Manoel Pardal (or Manoel Gearloose...)
Sigvald:
> Wouldn't that be written "Manuel" in English?
In Brazil we have both forms.
> > He must be the father of Barks' Ratchet Gearloose
> > (grandfather of Gyro).
> >
> > Not necessarily... Gyro has four great-grandfathers,
> Yes, but how many of them will have the same family-name?
> Did more than one of your great grandfathers have Faria as
> his family name?
You're right! The mix-up here occured because:
1) In Brazil Disney characters usually have no family names
(as I said in another post only now the editors are
worrying about that) and then Brazilian writers (including me)
never get bothered about surnames when creating new relatives,
especially for only one story.
2) In Brazil people usually address other people by
their first name: "Mr. Arthur", not "Mr. Faria".
This is another good reason for not getting bothered
about comic characters' surnames over here, especially
funny animals.
3) In Brazil Gyro Gearloose is known just as
"Professor Pardal", where "Pardal" is not considered
as a family name, it's actually his *first* name,
something like "Professor Gyro". So, "Neco Pardal"
(a double first name, also common in Brazil)
can't be (technically) translated to "Neco Gearloose",
or "Manuel Gearloose" or whatever, as I wrongly stated.
Sorry! And more: all his relatives in Brazil use "Pardal"
(or derivations like "Pardalino") in their names just
as a reference to the readers. ...Phew!
Well, after that, I still think Neco Pardal is not
Ratchet's father (a Carl Barks character!!).
He is... the father of the mother of Gyro's mother.
With so many creative inventors in both branchs
of his family, it's not a surprise that Gyro is
so... ingenious, is it? ;-)
Now, about the family name of Gyro's mother...
I have no idea!!!!!!!! ;-)
--Arthur.
> > Just for information, "Neco" is a short for "Maneco", which
> > is a nickname for "Manoel". So, the real name of Neco Pardal
> > is actually Manoel Pardal (or Manoel Gearloose...)
Sigvald:
> Wouldn't that be written "Manuel" in English?
In Brazil we have both forms.
> > He must be the father of Barks' Ratchet Gearloose
> > (grandfather of Gyro).
> >
> > Not necessarily... Gyro has four great-grandfathers,
> Yes, but how many of them will have the same family-name?
> Did more than one of your great grandfathers have Faria as
> his family name?
You're right! The mix-up here occured because:
1) In Brazil Disney characters usually have no family names
(as I said in another post only now the editors are
worrying about that) and then Brazilian writers (including me)
never get bothered about surnames when creating new relatives,
especially for only one story.
2) In Brazil people usually address other people by
their first name: "Mr. Arthur", not "Mr. Faria".
This is another good reason for not getting bothered
about comic characters' surnames over here, especially
funny animals.
3) In Brazil Gyro Gearloose is known just as
"Professor Pardal", where "Pardal" is not considered
as a family name, it's actually his *first* name,
something like "Professor Gyro". So, "Neco Pardal"
(a double first name, also common in Brazil)
can't be (technically) translated to "Neco Gearloose",
or "Manuel Gearloose" or whatever, as I wrongly stated.
Sorry! And more: all his relatives in Brazil use "Pardal"
(or derivations like "Pardalino") in their names just
as a reference to the readers. ...Phew!
Well, after that, I still think Neco Pardal is not
Ratchet's father (a Carl Barks character!!).
He is... the father of the mother of Gyro's mother.
With so many creative inventors in both branchs
of his family, it's not a surprise that Gyro is
so... ingenious, is it? ;-)
Now, about the family name of Gyro's mother...
I have no idea!!!!!!!! ;-)
--Arthur.
Carey Furlong
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 11 msgs
Message 443 -
2002-11-22 at 05:43:27
> "Subscribers: do not panic! Your subscriptions will be
> fulfilled, excepting a short delay, or money owed will be refunded
> in full. That's a promise. You will be kept informed!"
> So, after this "short" delay, I expect Gladstone will turn over
> their list of subscribers to the new publisher, who will resume
> my subscription, since Gladstone never sent a refund (having
> maintained faith that eventually a new publisher would take over).
> ----Larry Giver.
Yes, I recall this same statement, and I had several subscriptions with
Gladstone at the time they relinquished the license. But it's been three
years and I have since moved to a different city. I wonder how I can
possibly update them with my new address? Surely there will be others with
the same problem.
Carey Furlong
> fulfilled, excepting a short delay, or money owed will be refunded
> in full. That's a promise. You will be kept informed!"
> So, after this "short" delay, I expect Gladstone will turn over
> their list of subscribers to the new publisher, who will resume
> my subscription, since Gladstone never sent a refund (having
> maintained faith that eventually a new publisher would take over).
> ----Larry Giver.
Yes, I recall this same statement, and I had several subscriptions with
Gladstone at the time they relinquished the license. But it's been three
years and I have since moved to a different city. I wonder how I can
possibly update them with my new address? Surely there will be others with
the same problem.
Carey Furlong
DYER,SONIA (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Dirty tricks and silliness
Message 444 -
2002-11-22 at 08:52:43
I agree with Thomas.
Sonia
Sonia
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1154 - 11 msgs
Message 445 -
2002-11-22 at 10:13:20
CAREY:
> But it's been three
> years and I have since moved to a different city. I wonder how I can
> possibly update them with my new address? Surely there will be others with
> the same problem.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I suspect that there will also be
people with an even more serious problem, having moved beyond the reach
of any post office. :( Gladstone's successors will find themselves in
some embarrassing situations, having to deal both with grateful people
who will be receiving one last gift from their departed loved ones,
and with irate people who will feel that the resumed subscription is a
mockery.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"That's the trouble with omnipotency. Makes you think you can do anything."
-----
> But it's been three
> years and I have since moved to a different city. I wonder how I can
> possibly update them with my new address? Surely there will be others with
> the same problem.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I suspect that there will also be
people with an even more serious problem, having moved beyond the reach
of any post office. :( Gladstone's successors will find themselves in
some embarrassing situations, having to deal both with grateful people
who will be receiving one last gift from their departed loved ones,
and with irate people who will feel that the resumed subscription is a
mockery.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"That's the trouble with omnipotency. Makes you think you can do anything."
-----
Sdebeer
Asa Duck
Message 446 -
2002-11-22 at 10:21:06
Gilles,
I will send you a scan of Asa Duck - how do you want it? Giff/tiff etc?
Simon de Beer
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Simon de Beer
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H.W.Fluks
Scrooge's beggar look-alike cousin (Arthur/Rob)
Message 447 -
2002-11-22 at 14:40:49
Rob:
> Regarding the lookalike cousin of Scrooge, who is a beggar:
> I seem to recall
> something similar in the early 1960s (or very late 1950s),
> drawn by Jack
> Bradbury. It was a story with a bum (beggar) that looked just like
> Scrooge. I
> don't think he was related to Scrooge. I believe it was an
> S-coded story.
> Perhaps you remember that one, Harry?
This might be:
W DD 30-02, 14 pages, Fallberg/Bradbury, no title
[desc:Pokerface mine] [xapp:DD,HDL,GL]
The guy's Dutch name is Jeremias Borstel. German: Schwindolar Schwan.
The story was reprinted in ZP 150, and this version will be used in a future
Dutch DD Extra.
Arthur:
> If this is the character we are all talking about, then
> this is probably his first appearance, and his real
> name may be there...
DD 30 was published in 1953, while the other beggar cousin stories were from
the 1970s. So there may not be a connection at all, just coincidence.
--Harry.
> Regarding the lookalike cousin of Scrooge, who is a beggar:
> I seem to recall
> something similar in the early 1960s (or very late 1950s),
> drawn by Jack
> Bradbury. It was a story with a bum (beggar) that looked just like
> Scrooge. I
> don't think he was related to Scrooge. I believe it was an
> S-coded story.
> Perhaps you remember that one, Harry?
This might be:
W DD 30-02, 14 pages, Fallberg/Bradbury, no title
[desc:Pokerface mine] [xapp:DD,HDL,GL]
The guy's Dutch name is Jeremias Borstel. German: Schwindolar Schwan.
The story was reprinted in ZP 150, and this version will be used in a future
Dutch DD Extra.
Arthur:
> If this is the character we are all talking about, then
> this is probably his first appearance, and his real
> name may be there...
DD 30 was published in 1953, while the other beggar cousin stories were from
the 1970s. So there may not be a connection at all, just coincidence.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Gyro's Great Grandfather: not a Gearloose!
Message 448 -
2002-11-22 at 14:51:15
Arthur:
> 2) In Brazil people usually address other people by
> their first name: "Mr. Arthur", not "Mr. Faria".
Ah, that explains what I've been wondering about for years: why Brazilian
footballers often are called Romario, Ronaldo, etc. while we say for
instance "Cruijff" or "Johan Cruijff", but never just "Johan".
Also thanks for your explanation about Brazilian producktion!
--Harry.
> 2) In Brazil people usually address other people by
> their first name: "Mr. Arthur", not "Mr. Faria".
Ah, that explains what I've been wondering about for years: why Brazilian
footballers often are called Romario, Ronaldo, etc. while we say for
instance "Cruijff" or "Johan Cruijff", but never just "Johan".
Also thanks for your explanation about Brazilian producktion!
--Harry.
Goofy313g
Apologies to Arthur (about Daisy's great aunt and all)
Message 449 -
2002-11-22 at 15:18:59
Hi!
I'm sorry, but w hen I asked where did the scan of Pat von
concius, Daisy's great aunt clementina, and scrooge's relative came from, I didn't realize you had already told it in a previous message :-)
Gilles
I'm sorry, but w hen I asked where did the scan of Pat von
concius, Daisy's great aunt clementina, and scrooge's relative came from, I didn't realize you had already told it in a previous message :-)
Gilles
Sdebeer
Drawing pens
Message 450 -
2002-11-22 at 15:32:29
Can anyone tell the initiated, like me, what sort of drawing pen would the likes of Tony Strobl, Carl Barks & Gottredson use to illustrate their strips?
Thanks
Simon
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Simon
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