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Gilles wrote:

> In D 5560, "US searches his prospecting cousin in the wilderness for
> his birthday" (inducks description). I'd need his name, and a scan of
> him

This character was created by Stefan Printz-Påhlson and Vicar and first
showed up in D 5560. According to SPP, the character's first name was
Douglas. Douglas' second appearance (as far as we know) was in my story
"Gall in the family" (D 99252), where I in my synopsis implied Douglas'
and Scrooge's fathers were brothers. (And SPP has since decided that
Douglas' full name is Douglas McDuck.) However, since the relationship
between the fathers was only implied, there's a possibility Douglas'
actual relationship with Scrooge will turn out to be different. I (or
SPP) still haven't made a decision on that, though.

I don't have a scanner, so I unfortunately can't provide you with a
picture of Douglas.

Michiel wrote:

> I don't know if he's the
> same 'beggar cousin' as mentioned earlier on this list

He isn't.

> The first page of the story he appears
> in (D 99252) seems to be a sort of spoof (plagiate?) on the first
> page of Hergé's Tintin-album 'Coke en stock' ('The Red Sea
> Sharks').

It was a homage. Originally, the comic book shop's window didn't have a
display of superheroes - and we were going to get a closer look at the
album Donald was reading. An album strongly reminiscent of "Coke en
stock".
I wanted this particular opening page, partly because I happen to think
Tintin is the greatest comic book ever created and partly because it was
a handy explanation of the incredible coincidence that Scrooge would
happen to run into a relative he hadn't seen for years. By paralleling
the album events with the "real-life" Duckburg events, I hoped the
Scrooge-Douglas meeting would become more believable to the reader. Oh,
and I also wanted this opening page because Scrooge's (idiotic)
criticism of Donald's wasteful ways (in buying that album) would be
paralleled by Douglas' (idiotic) criticism of Scrooge's wasteful ways
over the next 11 pages.
My editor believed we couldn't make that obvious a reference to Tintin
and Haddock and instead had them changed to superheroes named Beakman
and Herring. The opening still worked, though.

Lars

At 12:01 PM +0100 11/25/02, dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se wrote:
>I'm writing article about western Disney comics. With and without ducks or
>mice. Browsing through Inducks for newspaper and comic book movie
>adaptations, I noticed that Jesse Marsh have done two versions of Westward
>Ho the Wagons! -movie. One for newspapers and one for comic books named
>Wringle Wrangle. Or so it seems, as they are indexed separately. Are these
>two versions different, or is Wringle Wrangle just cut and fitted for comic
>book -form?
>Could someone who owns the comic book check if this newspaper version is
>similar: http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/West.html with OS#821?
>Thanks!
>
>Best Wishes
>Timo

I checked my copy of #821 and it appears that there are two
versions. None of the panels in the comic strip you scanned appeared
in the comic book, as far as I can tell. The comic book is also by
Jesse Marsh, but it does not look like cut and pasted strips.

best -- Merlin Haas

Here's what I would like to see from Gemstone:

For them to pay Don Rosa for using his stories in US comics, even if
they don't have to.

For a hard cover collected works of Don Rosa which reprints Don Rosa's
stories in prestige format, for which Don Rosa would get royalties.

As I've written on this list many times over the years, I think Disney's
(and Egmont's) work-for-hire policies are a disgrace. These are just my
opinions and I'm not starting any letter writing campaigns, but it
really is too bad that this is even an issue. Is there really anyone
who thinks it is fair that a publisher, even Gemstone, has the moral
right to make money over and over again from work that was paid for just
once? Most other forms of entertainment and publishing enterprises long
ago started paying their creators royalties and a share of the profits.
The wonder is not that Don Rosa is on strike now, the wonder is that he
ever agreed to these terms in the first place, and didn't take up
something far more profitble and less troublesome, like chicken farming
in Death Valley.

jg

Hi!
so finally the douglas's appears to be the same one? It's great! As both
stories are from different years, and as i only have the second one, i
thought that this couldn't be the same one, but i wondered if Scrooge and
this douglas had already met eachother because of the plot... I was also
telling myself that maybe both douglas's were the same, given Douglas' clothes...

I wouldn't think he can be Scrooge's father's brother's son, because I just re-readed the story,
and in the story (at least in the french version), Douglas tells "the McDucks
have always been the most intelligent in the family"... so it implied that he
wasn't a Mcduck... but well, if SPP, ie one of the creators, and you are thinking he is a mcduck, then I think i should keep him as Scrooge's father's brother's son (and so, brother of Cyril McDuck from strobl's "the quest for Cyril", and the Degenhart McDuck i talked about in a previous message...

I don't need a picture of Douglas, because I already have one from your story...

thank you,
Gilles Maurice

PS: i don't need gyro' girlfriend Matilda anymore, because dott Paolo Fontanesi already sent me a scan...

>Diamond/Gemstone is very focused on getting into major new outlets, and
>not merely in the fullness of time but right off the bat. And they have
>savvy and resources Gladstone was unable to apply to these areas.
>
>After the prestige monthly, the trade paperback will be Gemstone's
>format of choice. The album and the pocket book (the digest) are also
>contenders. Less certain is the newsstand (magazine) format, but the
>door hasn't been closed on that either.
>
>Gary

Gary

Please let me add my two-cents worth in on this discussion.

All major and minor comic book companies in the United States
are getting into Trade Paperbacks (sometimes called "TBP"s).

Here's the reason - in the early to mid 1990's there were numerous
comic book companies publishing and they pushed their way into
the large 'chain' bookstores in the USA (Borders, Walton, Books-A-Million,
Barnes and Noble. Even Wal-Mart carried individual issue comics). The
effort failed. The product (regular comic books) got torn up too easily by
customers and employees who were not used to dealing with the fragile
media. Few major bookstores now carry individual comics.

About 1998 Marvel Comics came along with "essential" black and white
composite books of Marvel comics from the 1960's. The book stores loved it
- they
could make money on it (at $15.95 each) and they were stories that were
nearly impossible to get without thousands of dollars (or euros or pounds,
etc).

While the TBP was initially a premium comic retailer only item, Diamond
quickly say the TBP "book size" sturdy format was the format of choice of
the big stores with buying power. In the last three years the strategy of
TPB is big on the agenda.
(It is a major part of the business plan of CrossGen comics if anyone is
interested.)

The other reason - is that it is cheap to produce as the writers and
artists get only a fraction of their original payment for "reprint"
material. The good news is that it is sturdier, and the price per book
comes down from their original consumer cost.

Let's hope Diamond can convince the publishers and retailers. It may be
reprint material, but the package and price will be good. For example I
saw at TBP of Ultimate Spiderman at Wal-Mat today for $10 for the first
seven issues. This is less than cover price and less than 1/10th the going
price of these seven individual comics.

Robert
kds at gnc.net

Now,

........God bless you!..................
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Friends,

I may have been out of it for som time. This item was new to me:

Don Rosa on Strike
from http://www.collect.com/interest/article.asp?id=5104&cookie%5Ftest=1

Is this true? Any comments? Tell me it ain't so!

Even

>For a hard cover collected works of Don Rosa which reprints Don Rosa's
>stories in prestige format, for which Don Rosa would get royalties.

It would be great, but I hope that the deal with Disney doesn't prevent it.
It might say no to royalties and no to artwork returns. "or else..."
This might be the case with Egmont-Disney pact too. I don't know. How it is?

Timo

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Can anyone confirm if Don Rosa wiil be in Kalle Anka
#49? A Swedish friend is willing to pick me up a
copy?

Thanks,

Mike

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