HARRY WROTE IN RESPONSE TO MY POST:
> > If
> > publishers wish to compile Don's stories and simply sell them as WALT
> > DISNEY'S DONALD DUCK volumes without any artist's name
> > attached to the books
> > (as sued to be the case in Disney comics), why don't they do that?
>
> I guess the word "sued" is a Freudian typo. 8-)
AND I CLARIFY:
It's more likely just a case of my dyslexic fingers transposing the letters
in the word "used" (as you already figured out). I hate it when I mistype
and still produce a word that my spell-checker will skip over as acceptable.
HARRY CONCLUDES:
> --Harry.
> (Who never heard of a "Devil and Daniel Webster contract" before)
AND I EXPLAIN:
THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER is a great old short story and piece of
Americana written by Stephen Vincent Ben?t about a New England farmer who
sells his soul to the Devil for an improved economic state. When Mister
Scratch comes to collect, the greatest legislator and orator in New
England's history, Daniel Webster, defends the duped farmer before a jury of
dead traitors who had supposedly also sold their souls in their past lives
(including the most infamous turncoat in history, Benedict Arnold).
I apologize for using such an obviously American reference, but this tale
has been one of the most important pieces of fiction to ever come from the
pen of a US author, and it had a profound influence on me. It only became
more important when it was adapted into a movie starring Walter Huston as
Scratch (the Devil) and Edward Arnold as Daniel Webster. The film's
original title was ALL THAT MONEY CAN BUY, and it may still be known that
way in Europe. It is on my list of the 10 best movies of all time, and I
cannot recommend it highly enough. I have often wondered how Don might work
some of its plot elements into a Duck story. It is exceedingly dark, but
there is also a lot of humour in the tale (and its mood is strikingly
similar to CITIZEN KANE, which Don has easily incorporated into Scrooge's
life story).
Sorry to have gotten off topic (I'm always doing that, eh?), but I figured I
had better clean up my mess a little. Anyway, now perhaps others will
understand that a DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER contract means selling your very
being to a person or organization, thus losing control of your name and
reputation. If you're still unclear, by all means visit your local library
or check out the online version of the story at
http://www.law.utexas.edu/lpop/etext/devil/devil.htm.
Dan
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Dan Shane
FREUDIAN FINGERS and OT on DANIEL WEBSTER
Message 556 -
2002-11-29 at 15:08:27
Paolo Castagno
FREUDIAN FINGERS and OT on DANIEL WEBSTER
Message 557 -
2002-11-29 at 15:28:28
Dan Shane wrote (about Daniel Webster):
> If you're still unclear, by all means visit your local library
> or check out the online version of the story
Or, even better, read "Il Dottor Paperus", whose plot is
very similar to the Webster story:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/I+TL++188-A
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://digilander.libero.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
> If you're still unclear, by all means visit your local library
> or check out the online version of the story
Or, even better, read "Il Dottor Paperus", whose plot is
very similar to the Webster story:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/I+TL++188-A
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://digilander.libero.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
Sigvald
Errors in the COA database
Message 558 -
2002-11-29 at 15:53:45
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen <thomas at duckburg.dk> wrote:
> sigvald at duckburg.dk wrote:
>>
>> During the recent work with my "Don Rosa Scandinavian
>> Story Index" I discovered several errors and lack of
>> information in COA's Don Rosa Index files.
>
> As you probably know, the COA has all of its information based
> on the Inducks database. When something is added to Inducks,
> it is automatically added to COA shortly after.
Well, OK, but still they are two separete sites.
>> These errors are:
>>
> [missing first publications]
>
> The Inducks bases its first publication data on the actual
> publications of the story. It takes all publications it knows of,
> and finds the one that was published first. What has happened is
> probably that those issues don't have a publication date (or an
> insufficient one), so if you could provide the first publication
> issues of the stories too, that would be great.
I'll give you more information - I have still my notes!
> > m) D 2002-033 "The Dream of a Lifetime" is missing.
> > The necessary Information is found here:
> > http://duckman.pettho.com/sc_story/d2002-033.html
>
> The reason is probably that the story has not been published
> yet (or only barely has). It will appear, I can assure you
> that.
I know this! That comment was just menat as a little gag
to make my mail look a bit kinder.
>> And finally I think that COA is TOO SLOW - TOO OFTEN!!!
>
> Too slow in what way?
>
> With new issues and stories?
Oh no, I think it works well that way!
> Or, slow as a website?
Indeed. It's slowness slowed my work down...
> Yes, I know it is. Unfortunately, currently there is not much
> to be done about it, other than to wait a bit. COA has a *lot*
> of visitors every day, and each search takes up a lot of machine
> power.
I am not referring to the search function - I think that one
works well enough.
The problem is the frequent lack of access to
concrete COA-pages like:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/AR+102//_
Sigvald :-)
> sigvald at duckburg.dk wrote:
>>
>> During the recent work with my "Don Rosa Scandinavian
>> Story Index" I discovered several errors and lack of
>> information in COA's Don Rosa Index files.
>
> As you probably know, the COA has all of its information based
> on the Inducks database. When something is added to Inducks,
> it is automatically added to COA shortly after.
Well, OK, but still they are two separete sites.
>> These errors are:
>>
> [missing first publications]
>
> The Inducks bases its first publication data on the actual
> publications of the story. It takes all publications it knows of,
> and finds the one that was published first. What has happened is
> probably that those issues don't have a publication date (or an
> insufficient one), so if you could provide the first publication
> issues of the stories too, that would be great.
I'll give you more information - I have still my notes!
> > m) D 2002-033 "The Dream of a Lifetime" is missing.
> > The necessary Information is found here:
> > http://duckman.pettho.com/sc_story/d2002-033.html
>
> The reason is probably that the story has not been published
> yet (or only barely has). It will appear, I can assure you
> that.
I know this! That comment was just menat as a little gag
to make my mail look a bit kinder.
>> And finally I think that COA is TOO SLOW - TOO OFTEN!!!
>
> Too slow in what way?
>
> With new issues and stories?
Oh no, I think it works well that way!
> Or, slow as a website?
Indeed. It's slowness slowed my work down...
> Yes, I know it is. Unfortunately, currently there is not much
> to be done about it, other than to wait a bit. COA has a *lot*
> of visitors every day, and each search takes up a lot of machine
> power.
I am not referring to the search function - I think that one
works well enough.
The problem is the frequent lack of access to
concrete COA-pages like:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/AR+102//_
Sigvald :-)
Ari Seppi
Errors in the COA database
Message 559 -
2002-11-29 at 16:34:17
Sigvald:
>Thomas:
> > As you probably know, the COA has all of its information based
> > on the Inducks database. When something is added to Inducks,
> > it is automatically added to COA shortly after.
>Well, OK, but still they are two separete sites.
Actually I think you've got a bit wrong impression: Inducks database
is not a web site at all, it's a pile of plain text files and Harry's Dizni
program.
Fran?ois' COA offers an interface to Inducks by generating a MySQL
database from Inducks data and giving access to it via PHP-scripts.
> > Yes, I know it is. Unfortunately, currently there is not much
> > to be done about it, other than to wait a bit. COA has a *lot*
> > of visitors every day, and each search takes up a lot of machine
> > power.
>The problem is the frequent lack of access to
>concrete COA-pages like:
>http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/AR+102//_
Do you mean that they load slowly or that they don't load at all?
If it's the first, then the only*) solution might be, as Thomas
suggested, that you donate him a faster server. :-)
If it's the latter, then there might be some other problem.
*) When I have time, I could try to find some piece of code that
could be safely optimized, but it's not very likely that I find anything.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
>Thomas:
> > As you probably know, the COA has all of its information based
> > on the Inducks database. When something is added to Inducks,
> > it is automatically added to COA shortly after.
>Well, OK, but still they are two separete sites.
Actually I think you've got a bit wrong impression: Inducks database
is not a web site at all, it's a pile of plain text files and Harry's Dizni
program.
Fran?ois' COA offers an interface to Inducks by generating a MySQL
database from Inducks data and giving access to it via PHP-scripts.
> > Yes, I know it is. Unfortunately, currently there is not much
> > to be done about it, other than to wait a bit. COA has a *lot*
> > of visitors every day, and each search takes up a lot of machine
> > power.
>The problem is the frequent lack of access to
>concrete COA-pages like:
>http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/AR+102//_
Do you mean that they load slowly or that they don't load at all?
If it's the first, then the only*) solution might be, as Thomas
suggested, that you donate him a faster server. :-)
If it's the latter, then there might be some other problem.
*) When I have time, I could try to find some piece of code that
could be safely optimized, but it's not very likely that I find anything.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
H.W.Fluks
Inducks ("the COA database")
Message 560 -
2002-11-29 at 16:51:18
Ari:
> Actually I think you've got a bit wrong impression: Inducks database
> is not a web site at all, it's a pile of plain text files and
> Harry's Dizni program.
Well, there *is* a website http://inducks.org, where we present ourselves
and all the websites related to Inducks. Part of it is
http://bolderbast.inducks.org, where I explain the technicalities of
Inducks, but also how you can get Inducks data in the format you like.
As for the "plain text files": on the Inducks website, we also have HTML
files with issue indexes. These files are easier than the COA search
interface, when you want to download (or print) complete indexes (the files
are compacter).
See for instance
http://bolderbast.inducks.org/xxus.html which links to
http://coa.duckburg.dk/inducks/files/us/_index.html
Indeed a mixture of inducks.org and duckburg.dk - two machines of two Danish
members. (We are trying to find a faster machine so we can get everything on
one site.)
Then there are a few fixed creators indexes, see
http://bolderbast.inducks.org/xxcreators.html .
The disadvantage with these creator pages is that they are *not* updated
automatically, so they are a bit older than the COA data.
--Harry.
> Actually I think you've got a bit wrong impression: Inducks database
> is not a web site at all, it's a pile of plain text files and
> Harry's Dizni program.
Well, there *is* a website http://inducks.org, where we present ourselves
and all the websites related to Inducks. Part of it is
http://bolderbast.inducks.org, where I explain the technicalities of
Inducks, but also how you can get Inducks data in the format you like.
As for the "plain text files": on the Inducks website, we also have HTML
files with issue indexes. These files are easier than the COA search
interface, when you want to download (or print) complete indexes (the files
are compacter).
See for instance
http://bolderbast.inducks.org/xxus.html which links to
http://coa.duckburg.dk/inducks/files/us/_index.html
Indeed a mixture of inducks.org and duckburg.dk - two machines of two Danish
members. (We are trying to find a faster machine so we can get everything on
one site.)
Then there are a few fixed creators indexes, see
http://bolderbast.inducks.org/xxcreators.html .
The disadvantage with these creator pages is that they are *not* updated
automatically, so they are a bit older than the COA data.
--Harry.
Ari Seppi
Inducks ("the COA database")
Message 561 -
2002-11-29 at 17:23:15
Harry:
>Well, there *is* a website http://inducks.org, where we present ourselves
>and all the websites related to Inducks. Part of it is
>http://bolderbast.inducks.org, where I explain the technicalities of
>Inducks, but also how you can get Inducks data in the format you like.
Oh yes, I forgot to include the manual to my description.
>As for the "plain text files": on the Inducks website, we also have HTML
>files with issue indexes.
And that too, although forgetting was result of my mind model of Inducks.
In my head, I think Inducks as the input files + Dizni and Dizni I think
a bit like a search engine that gives results by the query (parameters).
So in my head, I kind of compare Dizni's outputs with the HTML results
COA's PHP-scripts give. (Even when Dizni, of course, does much more
complicated things than a seach engine.)
But I believe nobody is interested in my mind models so I don't know
why I wrote this. (Well, I guess it's because it would be embarrassing
if everybody believed that I wouldn't know those basic things about
Inducks :-) ).
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
>Well, there *is* a website http://inducks.org, where we present ourselves
>and all the websites related to Inducks. Part of it is
>http://bolderbast.inducks.org, where I explain the technicalities of
>Inducks, but also how you can get Inducks data in the format you like.
Oh yes, I forgot to include the manual to my description.
>As for the "plain text files": on the Inducks website, we also have HTML
>files with issue indexes.
And that too, although forgetting was result of my mind model of Inducks.
In my head, I think Inducks as the input files + Dizni and Dizni I think
a bit like a search engine that gives results by the query (parameters).
So in my head, I kind of compare Dizni's outputs with the HTML results
COA's PHP-scripts give. (Even when Dizni, of course, does much more
complicated things than a seach engine.)
But I believe nobody is interested in my mind models so I don't know
why I wrote this. (Well, I guess it's because it would be embarrassing
if everybody believed that I wouldn't know those basic things about
Inducks :-) ).
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
The COA database
Message 562 -
2002-11-29 at 17:36:43
Ari Seppi wrote:
> Inducks database
> is not a web site at all, it's a pile of plain text files and Harry's Dizni
> program.
Perhaps Sigvald thought of Per Starb?ck's search engine at
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/ ?
That webpage is indeed titled "I.N.D.U.C.K.S.", so I can understand why
it is obvious to think that this website is in fact the Inducks.
Per's site is (like the COA) a web-frontend, a search engine, for the
Inducks database. As I understand it, it is not, however, updated
automatically like the COA is, but it too reflects the data of the
Inducks database.
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
> Inducks database
> is not a web site at all, it's a pile of plain text files and Harry's Dizni
> program.
Perhaps Sigvald thought of Per Starb?ck's search engine at
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/ ?
That webpage is indeed titled "I.N.D.U.C.K.S.", so I can understand why
it is obvious to think that this website is in fact the Inducks.
Per's site is (like the COA) a web-frontend, a search engine, for the
Inducks database. As I understand it, it is not, however, updated
automatically like the COA is, but it too reflects the data of the
Inducks database.
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
Penleehun
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1166 - 14 msgs
Message 563 -
2002-11-29 at 18:33:14
<PRE>fucking unsubscribe
Sigvald
Errors in the COA database
Message 564 -
2002-11-29 at 19:11:54
Ari Seppi <ari.seppi at iki.fi> wrote:
>
>> The problem is the frequent lack of access to
>> concrete COA-pages like:
>> http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/AR+102//_
>
> Do you mean that they load slowly or that they don't
> load at all?
It often seems that they don't load at all.
> If it's the latter, then there might be some other problem.
Exactly! And that's why I mentioned it so that proper action
can done to have it fixed.
Sigvald :-)
>
>> The problem is the frequent lack of access to
>> concrete COA-pages like:
>> http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/AR+102//_
>
> Do you mean that they load slowly or that they don't
> load at all?
It often seems that they don't load at all.
> If it's the latter, then there might be some other problem.
Exactly! And that's why I mentioned it so that proper action
can done to have it fixed.
Sigvald :-)
Stefan Persson
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1166 - 14 msgs
Message 565 -
2002-11-29 at 19:18:28
----- Original Message -----
From: <Penleehun at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #1166 - 14 msgs
> <PRE>fucking unsubscribe
Please be a little less impolite.
Thanks,
Stefan Persson
From: <Penleehun at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #1166 - 14 msgs
> <PRE>fucking unsubscribe
Please be a little less impolite.
Thanks,
Stefan Persson
Goofy313g
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1166 - 14 msgs (Penleehun@aol.com)
Message 566 -
2002-11-29 at 19:26:12
Well... Fucking Goodbye !!!
:-)
Gilles
:-)
Gilles
UNDBKB
Just the Fact Ma(ds)am
Message 567 -
2002-11-29 at 19:41:20
I do like Don Rosa, but hate it when he uses untrue facts about Scrooge!
regards,
Mads
I am sorry to tell you Mads, but Scrooge is an imaginary character.
Therefore he can not be part of any FACTS! True or Untrue!
regards,
Mads
I am sorry to tell you Mads, but Scrooge is an imaginary character.
Therefore he can not be part of any FACTS! True or Untrue!
Stefan Persson
Just the Fact Ma(ds)am
Message 568 -
2002-11-29 at 19:45:50
----- Original Message -----
From: <UNDBKB at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: Just the Fact Ma(ds)am
> I am sorry to tell you Mads, but Scrooge is an imaginary character.
> Therefore he can not be part of any FACTS! True or Untrue!
Wouldn't that mean that *everything* is untrue? Everything has been invented
by someone (e.g. by Barks or Rosa), but it hasn't happened in the real
world. So all of that is lies!
Stefan
From: <UNDBKB at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: Just the Fact Ma(ds)am
> I am sorry to tell you Mads, but Scrooge is an imaginary character.
> Therefore he can not be part of any FACTS! True or Untrue!
Wouldn't that mean that *everything* is untrue? Everything has been invented
by someone (e.g. by Barks or Rosa), but it hasn't happened in the real
world. So all of that is lies!
Stefan
Sigvald
Apology for my COA mess!
Message 569 -
2002-11-29 at 20:24:53
Hi all!
My recent posting concerning the COA database was in no way
meant to be offensive against anybody. I apologise if anyone
was mislead to presume that my posting had an offensive
intention in any direction. No I hope that Harry or someone
else will be kind and tell us who the exact WEB-master(s) for
COA is/are for any future contact about COA.
Sigvald :-)
My recent posting concerning the COA database was in no way
meant to be offensive against anybody. I apologise if anyone
was mislead to presume that my posting had an offensive
intention in any direction. No I hope that Harry or someone
else will be kind and tell us who the exact WEB-master(s) for
COA is/are for any future contact about COA.
Sigvald :-)
Arthur Faria Jr.
Patusco Patusquela in B 810330
Message 570 -
2002-11-30 at 04:25:27
Gilles:
> About the story B 810330, i'd want to know if we see the real
> Patusco, not only Chatusco, his twin brother, and also his
> wife and his children. Is it possible to have scans
> of all the characters who appear?
We see both, since the real Patusco shows up in the
end to uncover his twin brother's scheme. They are
identical twin brothers. Patusco's wife doesn't appear.
In the last panel we see some of his children
coming out of a truck.
For scans, take a look at:
http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/
-- Arthur.
> About the story B 810330, i'd want to know if we see the real
> Patusco, not only Chatusco, his twin brother, and also his
> wife and his children. Is it possible to have scans
> of all the characters who appear?
We see both, since the real Patusco shows up in the
end to uncover his twin brother's scheme. They are
identical twin brothers. Patusco's wife doesn't appear.
In the last panel we see some of his children
coming out of a truck.
For scans, take a look at:
http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/
-- Arthur.