Rob Klein wrote:
> For Kai Saarto: The vast majority of the Artists and writers that work for
> Egmont, Hachette, Sanoma, Sanoma/VNU, Disney Italia and the other Disney Comics
> publishers are and were free-lance, not in-house employees. Therefore, most (if
> not all) of us would really have no access to official figures that could tell
> us whether or not the cost of royalties should require an increase in the price
> of the comics. David Gerstein, Gary Leach and Bob Foster, on this list (plus
> one or two others, worked in-house, as employees. They may be able to answer
> your question with some authority. We free lancers can only guess. I am afraid
> tht Gary was probably correct when he stated that the publishers, if required
> by law and court order to pay such royalties, would claim that that would raise
> their costs, significantly. At first, they would use that as an excuse to
> overturn such a decision. Then, if that failed, they would use it as an excuse
> to raise prices. Remember, however, that they can only charge what the market
> will bear.
Personally I'd be willing to pay a few percents extra, if I knew that
the writer/artist gets his share for a job well done. Perhaps this would
make stories a bit better as a really good one would probably get
reprinted - thus making a better profit for its creators?
Thanks for the thorough reply, Rob!
-Kai Saarto
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Topic: 200211
(577 messages)
Kai Saarto
Royalties
Message 331 -
2002-11-18 at 18:35:29
Kai Saarto
About Gladstone's parents
Message 332 -
2002-11-18 at 18:56:00
M.J. Prior wrote:
> Kai Saarto:
>
>>Gladstone as a tragic figure. That would be cool.
>
>
> I think Gladstone must be a bit lonely. He seems not to need
> nor to have any friends. I think that being an orphan and
> also his parents' only child somehow befits his character.
Good thinking. I've always thought Gladstone a bit too two-dimensional.
I don't recall ever seeing a story where he's not feeling good about
himself (except when he loses some contest to Donald). Maybe extreme
luck could be a cause for loneliness like fame and fortune for the
celebrities of the real world.
> Sigvald:
>
>>It will contradict Egmont's official view of the Duck-
>>universe.
>
>
> Why? Because Egmont doesn't regard Gladstone's parents as
> being dead, or because Egmont doesn't see Gladstone as a
> tragic character?
If Sigvald meant death, I'd like to say that the Don Rosa handling of
the death of Scrooge's father was extremely well pulled of. Some stories
can be exceptions to these policies, even if its rare.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
> Kai Saarto:
>
>>Gladstone as a tragic figure. That would be cool.
>
>
> I think Gladstone must be a bit lonely. He seems not to need
> nor to have any friends. I think that being an orphan and
> also his parents' only child somehow befits his character.
Good thinking. I've always thought Gladstone a bit too two-dimensional.
I don't recall ever seeing a story where he's not feeling good about
himself (except when he loses some contest to Donald). Maybe extreme
luck could be a cause for loneliness like fame and fortune for the
celebrities of the real world.
> Sigvald:
>
>>It will contradict Egmont's official view of the Duck-
>>universe.
>
>
> Why? Because Egmont doesn't regard Gladstone's parents as
> being dead, or because Egmont doesn't see Gladstone as a
> tragic character?
If Sigvald meant death, I'd like to say that the Don Rosa handling of
the death of Scrooge's father was extremely well pulled of. Some stories
can be exceptions to these policies, even if its rare.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Michael Schartau
Grandpa Duck
Message 333 -
2002-11-18 at 19:17:45
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Klein
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Grandpa Duck
But, then we also have the problem of the generations,-(e.g. whose Grandmother
Grandma is). Is she Donald's grandmother, or that of donald's Nephews. Is
Grandpa the Nephews' grandfather, or great grandfather???
Rob Klein
I remember a story where Grandma raised Donald. I think it was W OS 1109-02 "This is Your life" by Tony Strobl.
If this is the "trouth" I think she must be Donald's grandmother.
Michael Schartau
From: Rob Klein
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Grandpa Duck
But, then we also have the problem of the generations,-(e.g. whose Grandmother
Grandma is). Is she Donald's grandmother, or that of donald's Nephews. Is
Grandpa the Nephews' grandfather, or great grandfather???
Rob Klein
I remember a story where Grandma raised Donald. I think it was W OS 1109-02 "This is Your life" by Tony Strobl.
If this is the "trouth" I think she must be Donald's grandmother.
Michael Schartau
Kai Saarto
The Dream of a Lifetime still on schedual?
Message 334 -
2002-11-18 at 20:14:54
Just had a quick look on Sigvald's D.U.C.K.man pages. He says that
Rosa's "The Dream of a Lifetime" will be published December in most of
the Scandinavia and in German sometimes in January.
Any ideas if the negotiations between Don and Egmont will affect this?
If I understood Sigvald correctly, at least Don's article might be
missing in some countries (as was with "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut").
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Rosa's "The Dream of a Lifetime" will be published December in most of
the Scandinavia and in German sometimes in January.
Any ideas if the negotiations between Don and Egmont will affect this?
If I understood Sigvald correctly, at least Don's article might be
missing in some countries (as was with "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut").
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Frank Bubacz
The other Grandma
Message 335 -
2002-11-18 at 21:56:29
Hi,
after all the talk about Grandpa and Grandma Duck (I personally have always
assumed that she is the grandmother of HDL), I want to confuse matters by
throwing in the other (?) Grandma, the one that can be seen in Barks'
"Donald Duck's Best Christmas":
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+FGW++45-01//best_+christmas_
She isn't Elviry, is she? At least she doesn't look like her, and, moreover,
she doesn't act like her at all. I wonder why she is neglected among
"serious Donaldists", since she is a "Barksian fact"?
Frank
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after all the talk about Grandpa and Grandma Duck (I personally have always
assumed that she is the grandmother of HDL), I want to confuse matters by
throwing in the other (?) Grandma, the one that can be seen in Barks'
"Donald Duck's Best Christmas":
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+FGW++45-01//best_+christmas_
She isn't Elviry, is she? At least she doesn't look like her, and, moreover,
she doesn't act like her at all. I wonder why she is neglected among
"serious Donaldists", since she is a "Barksian fact"?
Frank
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Goofy313g
Of grandmas and grandpas...
Message 336 -
2002-11-18 at 22:39:35
Hi!!!
about the "other grandma" from W FGW 45-01, I already asked on this list if
she should be considered as another grandma of Donald or the nephews
(Hortense, for instance), but I have been answered that she is the grandma we
know with a different design because she wasn't a regular character, yet...
Then, for people who still think that she is hortense and who are only
interrested in Barks/Rosa universe, it can't be her, as in "the sharpie of
culebra cut", the nephew seem not to know her (Donald explains them who she
is...).
about the grandpa Duck Rob mentionned , I had already noticed his existence,
as I have the story where he is mentionned, but when I asked Sigvald why he
doesn't mention this fact, he answered it was because, in his version, it's
about *grandma's* horse, not grandpa's, so I thought it was just in the
french version that it had been translated grandpa...
about Grandma being Donald's mother, and huey, dewey and louie's grandma, I
don't think so, as i prefer Barks' version of the Family tree... And about
her interrests in men, she has already been shown with a grandpa Duck in a
story of Strobl, and in her younger days with Don Rosa's Humperdink Duck, and
she also sometimes seems to "date" with Scrooge...
Then, in a lot of versions, and even in the TV show "this is your life,
Donald Duck" (a show who seems to have inspired Tony Strobl; he seems to have
liked draw comics version of the show, as he also did with "the goofy
adventure story". Do you see other shows that have inspired Strobl?), Grandma
Duck is said to have raised him at the farm.
Gilles
PS: I just received "the Little Big Book of Disney" at my international
library!!! and I'll receive "Sognando la Calidornia", about Scarpa, probably
next week :-)
about the "other grandma" from W FGW 45-01, I already asked on this list if
she should be considered as another grandma of Donald or the nephews
(Hortense, for instance), but I have been answered that she is the grandma we
know with a different design because she wasn't a regular character, yet...
Then, for people who still think that she is hortense and who are only
interrested in Barks/Rosa universe, it can't be her, as in "the sharpie of
culebra cut", the nephew seem not to know her (Donald explains them who she
is...).
about the grandpa Duck Rob mentionned , I had already noticed his existence,
as I have the story where he is mentionned, but when I asked Sigvald why he
doesn't mention this fact, he answered it was because, in his version, it's
about *grandma's* horse, not grandpa's, so I thought it was just in the
french version that it had been translated grandpa...
about Grandma being Donald's mother, and huey, dewey and louie's grandma, I
don't think so, as i prefer Barks' version of the Family tree... And about
her interrests in men, she has already been shown with a grandpa Duck in a
story of Strobl, and in her younger days with Don Rosa's Humperdink Duck, and
she also sometimes seems to "date" with Scrooge...
Then, in a lot of versions, and even in the TV show "this is your life,
Donald Duck" (a show who seems to have inspired Tony Strobl; he seems to have
liked draw comics version of the show, as he also did with "the goofy
adventure story". Do you see other shows that have inspired Strobl?), Grandma
Duck is said to have raised him at the farm.
Gilles
PS: I just received "the Little Big Book of Disney" at my international
library!!! and I'll receive "Sognando la Calidornia", about Scarpa, probably
next week :-)
Sigvald
Apologies to Sigvald
Message 337 -
2002-11-18 at 22:45:00
M.J.Prior at let.rug.nl wrote:
>
> Sigvald:
> > And when did Granda Duck show a greater interst in men???
>
> To me it was not totally clear whom you referred to as
>'Granda Duck'.
Sorry that was just a typho.
> Sigvald, I feel I should apoligize to you for suggesting
> that you made an opposite assumption in reacting to Søren's
> remark about Ludwig. *I* thought too quickly that you assumed
> that Søren was hinting that Ludwig could be homosexual, but
> I can see now that you meant that you *don't* think Grandma
> is asexual, just because she's never shown any
> 'greater interest in men'. (Have I got it right, this time?)
Absolutely. I was talking about Grandma Elviry Duck (born Coot).
Sigvald :-)
>
> Sigvald:
> > And when did Granda Duck show a greater interst in men???
>
> To me it was not totally clear whom you referred to as
>'Granda Duck'.
Sorry that was just a typho.
> Sigvald, I feel I should apoligize to you for suggesting
> that you made an opposite assumption in reacting to Søren's
> remark about Ludwig. *I* thought too quickly that you assumed
> that Søren was hinting that Ludwig could be homosexual, but
> I can see now that you meant that you *don't* think Grandma
> is asexual, just because she's never shown any
> 'greater interest in men'. (Have I got it right, this time?)
Absolutely. I was talking about Grandma Elviry Duck (born Coot).
Sigvald :-)
Simon De Beer
Is that Gus Goose?
Message 338 -
2002-11-18 at 23:04:55
Rich Bellacera
In the House of Mouse Banner, is the goose character Gus Goose? Who are the tortoise characters? Look forward to seeing the artwork used to make the banner.
Simon de Beer
PS apologies for mis-spelling your name before!
In the House of Mouse Banner, is the goose character Gus Goose? Who are the tortoise characters? Look forward to seeing the artwork used to make the banner.
Simon de Beer
PS apologies for mis-spelling your name before!
Sigvald
The other Grandma
Message 339 -
2002-11-18 at 23:06:49
frankbubacz at hotmail.com:
>
> Hi,
>
> after all the talk about Grandpa and Grandma Duck
> (I personally have always assumed that she is the
> grandmother of HDL)
Have you ever read "W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N."?
> I want to confuse matters by throwing in the other (?)
> Grandma, the one that can be seen in Barks'
> "Donald Duck's Best Christmas":
>
> She isn't Elviry, is she? At least she doesn't look like
> her, and, moreover, she doesn't act like her at all. I
> wonder why she is neglected among "serious Donaldists",
> since she is a "Barksian fact"?
I read that story again very recently because it is printed
in the new hardcover book "Carl Barks Julespesial", and saw
the same thing as you. However my thought was that since that
story was done very early in Barks' career (1945) she was
drawn like that just by mistake.
Anyway assuming you are right - who is/was she then?
Well she could not possibly be Donald's other grandmother
(his mother's mother Downy O'Drake died in 1897) so she
must be one of HD&Ls two grandmothers. However she doesn't
look or act anyway like their mother's mother Hortense
McDuck, so then we are left with their father's mother
who in Don Rosa's world is also identical with Daisy's
mother. The grandpa from whom Donald once borrowed a horse
for a race can be her husband (since Fergus McDuck died
in 1902 and Humperdink Duck seems to have died when Donald
was little or young). I know that Donald speakes about him
as grandpa, but that's no bigger deal than when HD&L spaekes
about Elviry as grandma.
Sigvald :-)
>
> Hi,
>
> after all the talk about Grandpa and Grandma Duck
> (I personally have always assumed that she is the
> grandmother of HDL)
Have you ever read "W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N."?
> I want to confuse matters by throwing in the other (?)
> Grandma, the one that can be seen in Barks'
> "Donald Duck's Best Christmas":
>
> She isn't Elviry, is she? At least she doesn't look like
> her, and, moreover, she doesn't act like her at all. I
> wonder why she is neglected among "serious Donaldists",
> since she is a "Barksian fact"?
I read that story again very recently because it is printed
in the new hardcover book "Carl Barks Julespesial", and saw
the same thing as you. However my thought was that since that
story was done very early in Barks' career (1945) she was
drawn like that just by mistake.
Anyway assuming you are right - who is/was she then?
Well she could not possibly be Donald's other grandmother
(his mother's mother Downy O'Drake died in 1897) so she
must be one of HD&Ls two grandmothers. However she doesn't
look or act anyway like their mother's mother Hortense
McDuck, so then we are left with their father's mother
who in Don Rosa's world is also identical with Daisy's
mother. The grandpa from whom Donald once borrowed a horse
for a race can be her husband (since Fergus McDuck died
in 1902 and Humperdink Duck seems to have died when Donald
was little or young). I know that Donald speakes about him
as grandpa, but that's no bigger deal than when HD&L spaekes
about Elviry as grandma.
Sigvald :-)
Frank Bubacz
(no subject)
Message 340 -
2002-11-18 at 23:38:54
Gilles,
Tony Strobl also drew the comic version of "Donald in Mathmagic Land", if
memory doesn't fail.
Sigvald,
No, I haven't read W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N, but I guess it's a Rosa
story where it is stated that Grandma is the great-grandmother of HDL?
Frank
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Tony Strobl also drew the comic version of "Donald in Mathmagic Land", if
memory doesn't fail.
Sigvald,
No, I haven't read W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N, but I guess it's a Rosa
story where it is stated that Grandma is the great-grandmother of HDL?
Frank
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Grandma Duck's "brazilian" boyfriend!
Message 341 -
2002-11-19 at 00:19:33
I remeber an 80's brazilian short story were Grandma Duck encounter an old
boyfriend of her.
I don't remember it quite well, but I think it was published on the
"Peninha" (Fetrhy Duck) comic book...I don't know, but I presume it's wrote
by Renato Canini. (The stories from the 80's that he wroted are usually very
short).
Maybe Arthur can help me to identify that one?
Fernando!
No strikes in Brazil, we not even have ower names on the comics... :-(
boyfriend of her.
I don't remember it quite well, but I think it was published on the
"Peninha" (Fetrhy Duck) comic book...I don't know, but I presume it's wrote
by Renato Canini. (The stories from the 80's that he wroted are usually very
short).
Maybe Arthur can help me to identify that one?
Fernando!
No strikes in Brazil, we not even have ower names on the comics... :-(
Xephyr
House of Mouse
Message 342 -
2002-11-19 at 01:02:11
Simon de Beer asked how the House of Mouse portrays Clarabelle & Horace?
Here's a link to a banner that might interest you:
http://members3.boardhost.com/DisneyComics/
I have the artwork I redrew from the series that I used to make this
banner and as soon as I can I'll make it available here. My snapshots from
the show are not very clear, which is why I end up redrawing the characters.
Huey, Dewey & Louie look like they did in QUACK PACK and April, May & June
have ponytails like Daisy in the series. Other regular characters include
Mortimer Mouse (whom we know as Monty or Montmorency Rodent), Ludwig von
Drake, Uncle Scrooge, Ponchito, Jose Carioca, Clara Cluck and others.
-Rich Bellacera
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Here's a link to a banner that might interest you:
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I have the artwork I redrew from the series that I used to make this
banner and as soon as I can I'll make it available here. My snapshots from
the show are not very clear, which is why I end up redrawing the characters.
Huey, Dewey & Louie look like they did in QUACK PACK and April, May & June
have ponytails like Daisy in the series. Other regular characters include
Mortimer Mouse (whom we know as Monty or Montmorency Rodent), Ludwig von
Drake, Uncle Scrooge, Ponchito, Jose Carioca, Clara Cluck and others.
-Rich Bellacera
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Shad Z.
Inter-species Romances
Message 343 -
2002-11-19 at 03:53:00
----- Original Message -----
From: lgiver at pacbell.net (giver at pacbell.net)
> There is the well-known romance of Kermit the Frog with Miss
> Piggy. No marriage or off-spring yet! Does Disney now own all
> the muppets?
No. In 1989, Disney almost bought the Muppets, but the deal
fell through when Jim Henson died. See
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~csilvers/muppet-faq.html#sec6
for more info...
Jim Henson Co is now owned by German media company EM.TV, which
is currently trying to sell it...
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> There is the well-known romance of Kermit the Frog with Miss
> Piggy. No marriage or off-spring yet! Does Disney now own all
> the muppets?
No. In 1989, Disney almost bought the Muppets, but the deal
fell through when Jim Henson died. See
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~csilvers/muppet-faq.html#sec6
for more info...
Jim Henson Co is now owned by German media company EM.TV, which
is currently trying to sell it...
Shad Z. ^Q^
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http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
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Rob Klein
Barks' early Grandma/Scrooge & Euro
Message 344 -
2002-11-19 at 09:40:42
Re:Barks' Donald Duck's "Best Christmas":
I believe that the "Grandma" Barks drew was meant to be the "one and only"
Grandma Duck that was needed for the newspaper strip AND the comic book Disney
Duck Universe. To that time, and indeed since, there have not been many
regular characters added to the family. If The Studio Animation, or Comics
Departments, OR K.K. Publications/Western Publishing had intended to introduce
the "OTHER" Grandma of Donald or his Nephews, they would have introduced her
very specifically - so that the reader would have no doubt that she was a
different person from "Elviry" (the Grandma introduced by Taliaferro in 1938).
As Frank B. surmises, I too believe that Carl Barks had not intended to portray
a different character. She only appeared in TWO panels. He was not careful to
check the Disney Studio Animation Model Sheets (which DID exist, at that time),
or check an old strip of Taliaferro's (which may NOT have been easily obtained
by him in mid 1945 (he was working at home in San Jacinto- far from the Western
Ooffice in Los Angeles. That office likely did NOT have photos of old
Taliaferro grandma Duck Drawings in 1945. Barks would have had to have the
Western Publishing office request from the Disney Newspaper Comics Department,
that they post him photographs of grandma from an old strip, IF they had that,-
OR that Al Taliaferro draw him a sample sketch, or that The Comics Department
in Disney Studio request from the Animation Department, that a photo of the
Grandma Duck Animation Model Sheet be posted to Barks. This entire process,
with protocal, personal favours, and red tape would have taken several weeks.
As Barks kept to a rigourous work schedule of cranking out stories, he would
not have wanted to WAIT on this story. It required a certain amount of lead
time to be ready for shipment to FIRESTONE STORES, WELL BEFORE CHRISTMAS. There
may not have been time. As Barks had regularly read the Taliaferro strips (he
told me so, himself), he had a reasonable memory of what Grandma looked like.
She didn't look different enough that she couldn't be the SAME person. By
early 1950, when Barks first used Grandma as a major character in a story
(Vacation Parade Nr.1 - Summer 1950), he drew her much closer to Taliaferro's
version. He may have had a reasonable time before drawing the story to obtain
the studio model sheet. By 1950, the Western publishing editorial office in
Los Angeles (Beverly Hills) had a larger staff, and likely, closer ties to the
Disney Studio Offices (as the comic books editorial system was no more in
place0. Don't forget, that in early 1945, the regular production of Disney
Comic books by Western Publishing was only a few years old (and only a few
artists had been working on them). The editors gave Barks a virtual free hand-
as HE was, in effect, forming the production system, almost by himself.
Thanks Kriton, for informing me on the longer-term deadline for exchanging our
old currency for Euro. This brought me up a very funny scene: Uncle Scrooge
spending several months visiting EACH of The European Union National Banks to
exchange his old currancies to Euro. Of course, he had to do that because of
his trying to save money by not taking his "expensive" MEMORY PILLS. Because of
that grievous error, he missed the FIRST deadlines for exchanging in all those
countries. Can you imagine the riots caused by the many angry people waiting in
line for days for him to finish turning in his billions of paper bills???
Good Luck Don and the Italian Artists and Writers! Your fight is for ALL of us!
Rob
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I believe that the "Grandma" Barks drew was meant to be the "one and only"
Grandma Duck that was needed for the newspaper strip AND the comic book Disney
Duck Universe. To that time, and indeed since, there have not been many
regular characters added to the family. If The Studio Animation, or Comics
Departments, OR K.K. Publications/Western Publishing had intended to introduce
the "OTHER" Grandma of Donald or his Nephews, they would have introduced her
very specifically - so that the reader would have no doubt that she was a
different person from "Elviry" (the Grandma introduced by Taliaferro in 1938).
As Frank B. surmises, I too believe that Carl Barks had not intended to portray
a different character. She only appeared in TWO panels. He was not careful to
check the Disney Studio Animation Model Sheets (which DID exist, at that time),
or check an old strip of Taliaferro's (which may NOT have been easily obtained
by him in mid 1945 (he was working at home in San Jacinto- far from the Western
Ooffice in Los Angeles. That office likely did NOT have photos of old
Taliaferro grandma Duck Drawings in 1945. Barks would have had to have the
Western Publishing office request from the Disney Newspaper Comics Department,
that they post him photographs of grandma from an old strip, IF they had that,-
OR that Al Taliaferro draw him a sample sketch, or that The Comics Department
in Disney Studio request from the Animation Department, that a photo of the
Grandma Duck Animation Model Sheet be posted to Barks. This entire process,
with protocal, personal favours, and red tape would have taken several weeks.
As Barks kept to a rigourous work schedule of cranking out stories, he would
not have wanted to WAIT on this story. It required a certain amount of lead
time to be ready for shipment to FIRESTONE STORES, WELL BEFORE CHRISTMAS. There
may not have been time. As Barks had regularly read the Taliaferro strips (he
told me so, himself), he had a reasonable memory of what Grandma looked like.
She didn't look different enough that she couldn't be the SAME person. By
early 1950, when Barks first used Grandma as a major character in a story
(Vacation Parade Nr.1 - Summer 1950), he drew her much closer to Taliaferro's
version. He may have had a reasonable time before drawing the story to obtain
the studio model sheet. By 1950, the Western publishing editorial office in
Los Angeles (Beverly Hills) had a larger staff, and likely, closer ties to the
Disney Studio Offices (as the comic books editorial system was no more in
place0. Don't forget, that in early 1945, the regular production of Disney
Comic books by Western Publishing was only a few years old (and only a few
artists had been working on them). The editors gave Barks a virtual free hand-
as HE was, in effect, forming the production system, almost by himself.
Thanks Kriton, for informing me on the longer-term deadline for exchanging our
old currency for Euro. This brought me up a very funny scene: Uncle Scrooge
spending several months visiting EACH of The European Union National Banks to
exchange his old currancies to Euro. Of course, he had to do that because of
his trying to save money by not taking his "expensive" MEMORY PILLS. Because of
that grievous error, he missed the FIRST deadlines for exchanging in all those
countries. Can you imagine the riots caused by the many angry people waiting in
line for days for him to finish turning in his billions of paper bills???
Good Luck Don and the Italian Artists and Writers! Your fight is for ALL of us!
Rob
Klein
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Sigvald
Grandma and HDL
Message 345 -
2002-11-19 at 11:34:00
frankbubacz at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> No, I haven't read W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N, but
> I guess it's a Rosa story where it is stated that Grandma
> is the great-grandmother of HDL?
Wery well guessed!
When a JW-officer argues that HD&L wrongly address
Grandma Duck as "grandma" Grandma herself
interrupts and says "I am their great grandmother
- I din't knew you were so accurate about it".
Anyway the same information can also very easily
be read out of "Donald Duck Family Tree".
Sigvald :-)
>
> No, I haven't read W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N, but
> I guess it's a Rosa story where it is stated that Grandma
> is the great-grandmother of HDL?
Wery well guessed!
When a JW-officer argues that HD&L wrongly address
Grandma Duck as "grandma" Grandma herself
interrupts and says "I am their great grandmother
- I din't knew you were so accurate about it".
Anyway the same information can also very easily
be read out of "Donald Duck Family Tree".
Sigvald :-)