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Yes, that's the story. (Come to think of it, Dexter wasn't related to our
Ducks at all...)

Frank

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Hi!!!
In S 63069 : a relative problem, by Bradbury, from 1964, an aunt of daisy appears, called Myrtille in French, Andine in ... well, i think it's in Swedish, and Tarzania in the Netherlands. You'll see a picture of her in the next update of my tree... she's got dark curly hair, and a yellow hat with a flower, a little like Minnie had in her youth... Maybe her original name is probably aunt Tizzy [?]... Could anybody check this???
Gilles

Hi!

I once received a reply from Gladstone Publishing about locating a rack of
their comic books in the mall Disney Stores. They said the Disney store
people were dead set against any comic books in their stores! It was
unclear why,but there was no way even the high-priced large albums would be
allowed in a Disney Store. Curious: it is impossible to find anything
about Duck Tales or Uncle Scrooge in a Disney store here in America. Even
Donald himself and the nephews are rarely found.

> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 19:43:03 -0500
> From: goofy313g at aol.com
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Cc: shaagerup at raptus.dk
> Subject: Duck family tree, wdd 30-02, Schuijlenburg, need help from all countries!!!
>
...
> Martin wrote :
> >>>So: No beggar cousin, but a deceased relative, in W DD 30-02.
> >>>On the first page of the story Donald points his name out on the family
> >>>tree with the remark: "Here he is... way out on this limb!"
>
> Is this deceased relative pokerface himself? if no, has this dead relative a name? you talked about a family tree.. how does it look like? could anyone provide a scan of it? on which line is the dead character??? is pokerface's relation with dd and gladstone specified???
>
>

As I wrote:
"The name of the character in W DD 30-02 is Pokerface McDuck. He does not appear in the story, because he is dead.
The story is about Donald and Gladstone being his heirs. Donald gets a framed portrait of Pokerface McDuck (hence the possibility of including his picture in modern reconstructed family trees),..."

The tree looks like a tree with no leaves and just a few branches. The tree is drawn on a roller blind. There is no specification of Pokerface's relation to the other ducks, but he ought to be a remote relative, judging from Donald's remark as cited above.

Martin.

To Gilles Maurice:

Have you already added Grandma's aunt Klaziena to your tree?
She appeared in a Freddy Milton (?) story in the Dutch DD weekly
this year (somewhere around the issue with the new Jippes JW
story). Grandma tells Gus about how she inherited the farm from
her aunt. Her (Klaziena's) parents and her lover are also shown.
(That's four new characters.) I didn't buy the issue, so I'm afraid I
can't provide you with any scans. Maybe her name was Klazien,
not Klaziena.

If you tried to fit her into Don Rosa's Tree, I'd say she must be a
sister of Gertrude Gadwall (Grandma's mother), because Klaziena's
father is not Cornelius Coot.

About cousin Douglas McDuck:

This character is already in Gilles' tree. I don't know if he's the
same 'beggar cousin' as mentioned earlier on this list, but that's
not the point I want to make. The first page of the story he appears
in (D 99252) seems to be a sort of spoof (plagiate?) on the first
page of Herg?'s Tintin-album 'Coke en stock' ('The Red Sea
Sharks').

Donald reads a comic in which two superheroes encounter
someone they haven't met in years. $crooge thinks it's ridiculous:
he hasn't seen, for example, his cousin Douglas in years. Would
that mean he's about to meet him at the corner? Guess what
happens.

In 'Coke en stock' Tintin and captain Haddock encounter general
Alcazar in exact the same way: They're on their way home from
the cinema and Haddock thinks the movie had a bit of a weak plot,
because in the end somebody turns up unexpectedly after he'd
been lost for years. Etc.

Michiel Prior.

P.S.: In Dutch, the two superheroes in Donald's comic were named
Snavelman and Bekje. I wonder what this might have been in the
original version. A neat English translation would be Beakman and
Billy, but there's most probably no English version. The story
appeared in Dutch DD Extra 2002-6.

P.P.S.: G?n?ral Alcazar has the same first name as oncle Picsou
($crooge): Zazar (Balthazar). [OT]

VIC wrote:

>Lars wrote:
>> I agree. *All* Duck stories are fictional, as is the
>> universe they take
>> place in. And the Duck universe has had hundreds of
>> co-creators who
>> sometimes contradict each other. Which is why (as
>> I've stated earlier),
>> I don't see any point in claiming a particular Duck
>> story is "canon" and
>> another one isn't.
>>
>> If I don't make any sense, it's because I'm tired.
>
>You make perfect sense. I agree with your agreement.

As do I. When so many writers and artists are involved in the creation of a
single "universe," you're bound to have many differences and tweakings--after
all, each creator has a different interpretation of Duckburg and its
residents. (And you really can't deny them of that.)

I don't think looking at anything as true "canon" is the way to go, because
that would present even more plotholes and contradictions. In large, complex
mainstream titles such as the Disney Ducks, you really can't take one way or
the other seriously.

That is, it's great to look at Don Rosa's "Life of Scrooge" arc as a nice
collection of all of Barks' Scrooge-facts--and it's easy to generally accept
the whole thing as an accurate "set-in-stone" fact-fest about Scrooge's life.
But an obscure European artist might have a completely different idea about
Scrooge's life, and I think that's perfectly acceptable.

The Duck universe isn't really something that should have set boundaries, if
you ask me.

(Please don't burn me for the repetition of this message! I'm a first-time
poster!)
--
Dane Martin
"I don't know from alliteration
or simile, but if you lazy little
loafers don't get to school,
I'll peel you like spuds!"
-- Donald Duck (Rosa)

I would also like to see the newstand format of Disney comics. That's my
favorite way of collecting comics, considering they're generally affordable
and convenient to store. Don't get me wrong, though--I'll most likely buy the
prestige format books, but it would be much better to have affordably-priced
magazines.

However, I will admit that the "comic-magazines" are a dying business, with
the exception of rare titles from the past. It's kind of depressing,
really...

As much as I hate to admit it, trade paperbacks, and prestige comics to a
smaller extent, seem to be the comic formats of the future. Here's to hoping
society will get its act together!

(Or at least Gemstone.)
--
Dane Martin
"I don't know from alliteration
or simile, but if you lazy little
loafers don't get to school,
I'll peel you like spuds!"
-- Donald Duck (Rosa)