I think "Wolf" should be considered as their real last names, but the rest
are nicknames anyway "Big" "Bad" Wolf has been nicknamed like that because he
was Big and Bad, while Li'l Bad Wolf was nicknamed like that because he's the
son of "Bad" Wolf, ie "Bad" Wolf Jr. The real name of the Big Bad Wolf is
"Ezekiel", and is also nicknamed "Zeke". We don't know for his son (though I think
it could be "Louie" for some reasons*)
I don't see what should be considered as strange, here...
Gilles
* the universe of Li'l Bad Wolf character has been very developped in French
stories, in the magazine "Pt'it Loup" (Li'l Wolf"), so French references are
definitely important for this character. In French, the name Loup/Lou is a
short for Louis, so his real name could be Louis...
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Goofy313g
Li'l Bad Wolf / Big Bad Wolf
Message 151 -
2003-08-10 at 20:17:28
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Various from AC
Message 152 -
2003-08-10 at 20:57:57
A.C. Siveb?k <anders_sivebaek at nns.dk> wrote
>> Sigvald:
>> Or it again proofs his (IMO) lack of respect
>> for other artists, Barks included.
>
> To judge that, Sigvald, you have to read some
> of Blum's articles about Barks.
My view about G. Blum is based upon his stories (I have read the one
published in DD&Co last year - and I even got the first half of it in Danish
from you, remember) and the way he treats already established "facts" lice
Ms. Quackfaster's first name. What do you think our friend Cathy would say
if his next move is to rename Glittering Goldie's last name from the
established "O'Gilt" into something a-la "McKilt"?
> From what I've read I'd say he has that respect.
Maybe in words, but IMO not that much in his works. And it seems that I am
not the only one. Daniel J. Neyer recently said that he basically agree with
me when it comes to G. Blum. If Blum wants to do modern stories set in the
21st century he should come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to
get attention. From what I have read on DCML before Blum uses vague ideas
from Barks as basis for his stories apparently in order to get attention.
> AFAIK Mr. Blum wrote the preface for Rosa's
> Lo$ when it was published as a whole in the
> States, knwoing that i would expect that he
> has read and studied the story.
This only strengthen my point of view...
> Sigvald, you have to read some of Blum's
> articles about Barks. From what I've read I'd
> say he has that respect. I'd be happy to lend
> you some of the articles, so you can get the
> oppurtunity to read them
OK I'll be happy to read those articles if we meet at the Christmas meeting
? if not just bring them with you the next time you visit me here in Norway.
> Even though Little Wolf, as I do tend to call
> him...
A nice and IMO even correct name, AC. "Little Wolf" and "Big Wolf". In
Norwegian they are often called "Lille Ulv" and "Store Ulv". I guess that
the name "Little Bad Wolf" will always sound strange to me, but that's not a
big deal - right?
Sigvald
>> Sigvald:
>> Or it again proofs his (IMO) lack of respect
>> for other artists, Barks included.
>
> To judge that, Sigvald, you have to read some
> of Blum's articles about Barks.
My view about G. Blum is based upon his stories (I have read the one
published in DD&Co last year - and I even got the first half of it in Danish
from you, remember) and the way he treats already established "facts" lice
Ms. Quackfaster's first name. What do you think our friend Cathy would say
if his next move is to rename Glittering Goldie's last name from the
established "O'Gilt" into something a-la "McKilt"?
> From what I've read I'd say he has that respect.
Maybe in words, but IMO not that much in his works. And it seems that I am
not the only one. Daniel J. Neyer recently said that he basically agree with
me when it comes to G. Blum. If Blum wants to do modern stories set in the
21st century he should come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to
get attention. From what I have read on DCML before Blum uses vague ideas
from Barks as basis for his stories apparently in order to get attention.
> AFAIK Mr. Blum wrote the preface for Rosa's
> Lo$ when it was published as a whole in the
> States, knwoing that i would expect that he
> has read and studied the story.
This only strengthen my point of view...
> Sigvald, you have to read some of Blum's
> articles about Barks. From what I've read I'd
> say he has that respect. I'd be happy to lend
> you some of the articles, so you can get the
> oppurtunity to read them
OK I'll be happy to read those articles if we meet at the Christmas meeting
? if not just bring them with you the next time you visit me here in Norway.
> Even though Little Wolf, as I do tend to call
> him...
A nice and IMO even correct name, AC. "Little Wolf" and "Big Wolf". In
Norwegian they are often called "Lille Ulv" and "Store Ulv". I guess that
the name "Little Bad Wolf" will always sound strange to me, but that's not a
big deal - right?
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Daniel's comments
Message 153 -
2003-08-10 at 21:37:22
Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> SIGVALD GROSFJELD to M.J. PRIOR, 09-08-2003:
>> Or it again proofs his (IMO) lack of respect
>> for other artists, Barks included.
>
> And *again* you mix up Barks with Rosa, in your
> controversial attempts to connect your logic
> with reality.
I just stated an opinion of mine, nothing more, nothing less. To indicate
that that statement was an opinion *not* some kind of fact I added IMO
(means: In My Opinion).
> Sigvald, I must admit that I'm getting tired
> of these kind of contributions from you.
If you don't like to read other peoples opinions here then you have a
problem, you see this is actually a place in where people is intended to
state their opinions, whatever those may be.
> Notice that this is the THIRD chance you're
> destroying in your attempts to have "friendly"
> conversations on this mailing list.
No. This time most of the quarrelling has occurred because some people takes
my statements to the extreme. My opinion is much more balanced than most
people realizes. For instance I was insulted just because I used the word
"cult". I was not even asked what I meant by using that word before being
insulted.
> Doing so, you're also destroying the atmosphere
> on this mailing list.
I may not be THE, or at least not THE ONLY problem in this list (see above
to see what I mean).
> I thought you cared about this mailing list
I do, Daniel, I really do!
> but now I'm tended to think that you only care
> for your own ego.
That's definitely not true.
> Maybe I suggest that YOU have a lack of
> respect to people in general, and that your
> contributions are full of flaming, harming
> the name and reputations of just about
> everyone you mention?
That would not be true. Furthermore I think that much of the current
problems are caused by the current heated atmosphere here. Small sparks from
me seems to easily causing unwanted flame wars. In a friendlier atmosphere
such misunderstandings would be figured out and solved way before they could
end up in flame wars.
Hopefully this thread can be ended peacefully before it also ends up in a
flame war.
Sigvald
> SIGVALD GROSFJELD to M.J. PRIOR, 09-08-2003:
>> Or it again proofs his (IMO) lack of respect
>> for other artists, Barks included.
>
> And *again* you mix up Barks with Rosa, in your
> controversial attempts to connect your logic
> with reality.
I just stated an opinion of mine, nothing more, nothing less. To indicate
that that statement was an opinion *not* some kind of fact I added IMO
(means: In My Opinion).
> Sigvald, I must admit that I'm getting tired
> of these kind of contributions from you.
If you don't like to read other peoples opinions here then you have a
problem, you see this is actually a place in where people is intended to
state their opinions, whatever those may be.
> Notice that this is the THIRD chance you're
> destroying in your attempts to have "friendly"
> conversations on this mailing list.
No. This time most of the quarrelling has occurred because some people takes
my statements to the extreme. My opinion is much more balanced than most
people realizes. For instance I was insulted just because I used the word
"cult". I was not even asked what I meant by using that word before being
insulted.
> Doing so, you're also destroying the atmosphere
> on this mailing list.
I may not be THE, or at least not THE ONLY problem in this list (see above
to see what I mean).
> I thought you cared about this mailing list
I do, Daniel, I really do!
> but now I'm tended to think that you only care
> for your own ego.
That's definitely not true.
> Maybe I suggest that YOU have a lack of
> respect to people in general, and that your
> contributions are full of flaming, harming
> the name and reputations of just about
> everyone you mention?
That would not be true. Furthermore I think that much of the current
problems are caused by the current heated atmosphere here. Small sparks from
me seems to easily causing unwanted flame wars. In a friendlier atmosphere
such misunderstandings would be figured out and solved way before they could
end up in flame wars.
Hopefully this thread can be ended peacefully before it also ends up in a
flame war.
Sigvald
Katie Sullivan
Name changes
Message 154 -
2003-08-10 at 22:19:47
Sigvald wrote:
>What do you think our friend Cathy would say
>if his next move is to rename Glittering Goldie's last name
>from the established "O'Gilt" into something a-la "McKilt"?
Um, my name it Katie, not Cathy. ;)
My reaction? I would be slightly annoyed, as that name is
slightly more well-known than "Emily" as Ms. Quackfaster's first
name, but I still wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Frankly, I
would just be thrilled that there was a new story featuring one
of my all-time favorite characters! :)
Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/
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>What do you think our friend Cathy would say
>if his next move is to rename Glittering Goldie's last name
>from the established "O'Gilt" into something a-la "McKilt"?
Um, my name it Katie, not Cathy. ;)
My reaction? I would be slightly annoyed, as that name is
slightly more well-known than "Emily" as Ms. Quackfaster's first
name, but I still wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Frankly, I
would just be thrilled that there was a new story featuring one
of my all-time favorite characters! :)
Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/
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Stefan Persson
Disney Mickey Mouse comic strip returns to America
Message 155 -
2003-08-10 at 22:26:38
>From: Rich Bellacera <xephyr at cwnet.com>
>Reply-To: xephyr at cwnet.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Disney Mickey Mouse comic strip returns to America Date: Sun, 10
>Aug 2003 11:31:31 -0800
>but I got busy in Januaury 2000
[...]
>The last strip I ever got was Jan 14, 2002.
Did you get strips after you got busy, or is one of the dates a typo?
Stefan
_________________________________________________________________
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>Reply-To: xephyr at cwnet.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Disney Mickey Mouse comic strip returns to America Date: Sun, 10
>Aug 2003 11:31:31 -0800
>but I got busy in Januaury 2000
[...]
>The last strip I ever got was Jan 14, 2002.
Did you get strips after you got busy, or is one of the dates a typo?
Stefan
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Rich Bellacera
Disney Mickey Mouse comic strip returns to America
Message 156 -
2003-08-10 at 22:31:31
I, too, was collecting the strip as it was being published on-line by my
local newspaper (San Jose Mercury news), but I got busy in Januaury 2000
and typically, I would just use my browser to get the back issues, but
by the time I got around to it, the strip was discontinued and all back
issues were taken off the website. The last strip I ever got was Jan
14, 2002. Sadly. I am glad to hear it's returning.
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
local newspaper (San Jose Mercury news), but I got busy in Januaury 2000
and typically, I would just use my browser to get the back issues, but
by the time I got around to it, the strip was discontinued and all back
issues were taken off the website. The last strip I ever got was Jan
14, 2002. Sadly. I am glad to hear it's returning.
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Sigvald and (his new windmill) Blum
Message 157 -
2003-08-10 at 23:00:57
SIGVALD GROSFJELD to ANDERS SIVEBAEK, 10-08-2003:
>> To judge that, Sigvald, you have to read some of Blum's articles
>> about Barks. [...]
>> From what I've read I'd say he has that respect.
> Maybe in words, but IMO not that much in his works. And it seems
> that I am not the only one. Daniel J. Neyer recently said that he
> basically agree with me when it comes to G. Blum.
And, so what? You (think you) don't stand alone? Yes, and then?
I thought you already learnt that using other list members's names
to validate your opinion, is an unwanted way of discussing here.
> If Blum wants to do modern stories set in the 21st century he should
> come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to get attention.
> From what I have read on DCML before Blum uses vague ideas from Barks
> as basis for his stories apparently in order to get attention.
Let's convert it by filling in another innocent name. A name that will
sound familiar to you, so you hopefully and finally will understand how
*unreasonable* and *mistaken* you are about other creators:
"If (Rosa) wants to do (old-fashioned) stories set in the (1950s)
he should come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to get
attention. From what I have read on DCML before (Rosa) uses vague
ideas from Barks as basis for his stories apparently in order to
get attention."
See? Doesn't sound very nice and reasonable, does it?
(Well, what do we care! This is a public mailing list and every piece
of nonsense may be freely expressed by calling it an "opinion". Right?
And if someone complains, then it's because of the heated atmosphere
that *coincidentally* surrounds us, every time we pop up.)
And there are also a lot of other creators like Daan Jippes, William
Van Horn, Patrick Block, Romano Scarpa, etc., who are all yearning
for attention by using vague ideas from Barks. And I ask you, who
has to pay the bill for all their misguided almost-evil apocryphal
creations? Yes, the poor comic book collector!
Let's reprint The Carl Barks Library and (if only just for you) a
Don Rosa Library. Then we have all what we desire, so we can finally
close down the whole Disney comic book nonsense. That will learn
those attention-seeking creators and those bad editors! Well, their
only rescue would be that they promise to contact *you* first before
making a decision or a creation, so you can *warn* them what is right
and what is wrong wrong wrong. Would that make you happy, Sigvald?
If so, then I'd almost say it's worth it. Please, give me a break!
:-(
--- Dani?l
P.S. In case anyone is sleeping, or illiterate: There's a lot of crap
about creators and editors in this email. Don't start jumping on me
by trying to point out the obvious. I might explode.
>> To judge that, Sigvald, you have to read some of Blum's articles
>> about Barks. [...]
>> From what I've read I'd say he has that respect.
> Maybe in words, but IMO not that much in his works. And it seems
> that I am not the only one. Daniel J. Neyer recently said that he
> basically agree with me when it comes to G. Blum.
And, so what? You (think you) don't stand alone? Yes, and then?
I thought you already learnt that using other list members's names
to validate your opinion, is an unwanted way of discussing here.
> If Blum wants to do modern stories set in the 21st century he should
> come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to get attention.
> From what I have read on DCML before Blum uses vague ideas from Barks
> as basis for his stories apparently in order to get attention.
Let's convert it by filling in another innocent name. A name that will
sound familiar to you, so you hopefully and finally will understand how
*unreasonable* and *mistaken* you are about other creators:
"If (Rosa) wants to do (old-fashioned) stories set in the (1950s)
he should come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to get
attention. From what I have read on DCML before (Rosa) uses vague
ideas from Barks as basis for his stories apparently in order to
get attention."
See? Doesn't sound very nice and reasonable, does it?
(Well, what do we care! This is a public mailing list and every piece
of nonsense may be freely expressed by calling it an "opinion". Right?
And if someone complains, then it's because of the heated atmosphere
that *coincidentally* surrounds us, every time we pop up.)
And there are also a lot of other creators like Daan Jippes, William
Van Horn, Patrick Block, Romano Scarpa, etc., who are all yearning
for attention by using vague ideas from Barks. And I ask you, who
has to pay the bill for all their misguided almost-evil apocryphal
creations? Yes, the poor comic book collector!
Let's reprint The Carl Barks Library and (if only just for you) a
Don Rosa Library. Then we have all what we desire, so we can finally
close down the whole Disney comic book nonsense. That will learn
those attention-seeking creators and those bad editors! Well, their
only rescue would be that they promise to contact *you* first before
making a decision or a creation, so you can *warn* them what is right
and what is wrong wrong wrong. Would that make you happy, Sigvald?
If so, then I'd almost say it's worth it. Please, give me a break!
:-(
--- Dani?l
P.S. In case anyone is sleeping, or illiterate: There's a lot of crap
about creators and editors in this email. Don't start jumping on me
by trying to point out the obvious. I might explode.
Lars Jensen
Disney Mickey Mouse comic strip returns to America
Message 158 -
2003-08-10 at 23:10:27
Martin Olsen wrote:
> >> Was the Mickey Mouse newspaper strip cancelled?
>
> The strip at least lived well into the year 2000. I have scans of the
> 2000-strips through March 11, and that cannot be the last strip
> published, since it has Mickey hanging suspended over a large vat of
> "Granny Eagle's deep-fried marshmallow sauerkraut casserole" into
> which Emil Eagle intends to dunk him after smashing Mickey's hometown
> with his earthquake-machine. We're at the end of week 2 of an
> adventure which began on February 28, 2000.
This is also the last strip I have.
Lars
> >> Was the Mickey Mouse newspaper strip cancelled?
>
> The strip at least lived well into the year 2000. I have scans of the
> 2000-strips through March 11, and that cannot be the last strip
> published, since it has Mickey hanging suspended over a large vat of
> "Granny Eagle's deep-fried marshmallow sauerkraut casserole" into
> which Emil Eagle intends to dunk him after smashing Mickey's hometown
> with his earthquake-machine. We're at the end of week 2 of an
> adventure which began on February 28, 2000.
This is also the last strip I have.
Lars
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks and internet
Message 159 -
2003-08-10 at 23:18:21
LARS JENSEN to me, 10-08-2003:
> ["The Many Faces of Magica De Spell", US 48] The Bird Telegraph,
> to me anyway, simply comes off as the bird equivalent of the
> "Twilight Bark" from Disney's "101 Dalmatians" (1961).
Interesting, I didn't think of that. Could there be a connection
between Barks's story and the movie? Or has the idea been used
before?
--- Dani?l
> ["The Many Faces of Magica De Spell", US 48] The Bird Telegraph,
> to me anyway, simply comes off as the bird equivalent of the
> "Twilight Bark" from Disney's "101 Dalmatians" (1961).
Interesting, I didn't think of that. Could there be a connection
between Barks's story and the movie? Or has the idea been used
before?
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Daniel's comments
Message 160 -
2003-08-11 at 00:01:16
SIGVALD GROSFJELD to me, 10-08-2003:
>> And *again* you mix up Barks with Rosa, in your controversial
>> attempts to connect your logic with reality.
> I just stated an opinion of mine, nothing more, nothing less.
> To indicate that that statement was an opinion *not* some kind
> of fact I added IMO (means: In My Opinion).
Carl Barks was born in 1920 (IMO). In 1964, he submitted a story to
Western Publishing (IMO), to get a job as comic book artist (IMO).
The story was rejected (IMO) and so Barks decided to become a cowboy
(IMO) instead, and he and his horse lived happily ever after (IMO)
in the Sahara, south-west of Australia (IMO).
I just stated an opinion of mine, nothing more, nothing less.
>> Sigvald, I must admit that I'm getting tired of these kind of
>> contributions from you.
> If you don't like to read other peoples opinions here then you
> have a problem, you see this is actually a place in where people
> is intended to state their opinions, whatever those may be.
No, most certainly *not* "whatever those may be".
Basically, you're just stating that you can do what you want, as
long as you decide it's an opinion. And if people don't like it,
they have a problem. Are you out of apologies, and is this your
next strategy?
>> Notice that this is the THIRD chance you're destroying in your
>> attempts to have "friendly" conversations on this mailing list.
> No. This time most of the quarrelling has occurred because some
> people takes my statements to the extreme.
Your statements *are* extreme.
> My opinion is much more balanced than most people realizes. For
> instance I was insulted just because I used the word "cult".
It wasn't just the word "cult". There were many other words. And
notice that I was complaining about *another* subject you were
involved in, not the wicca one.
>> Doing so, you're also destroying the atmosphere on this mailing list.
> I may not be THE, or at least not THE ONLY problem in this list (see
> above to see what I mean).
Well, I'm glad that you see that you may at least be ONE problem.
>> I thought you cared about this mailing list
> I do, Daniel, I really do!
Then, behave that way.
> Furthermore I think that much of the current problems are caused
> by the current heated atmosphere here. Small sparks from me seems
> to easily causing unwanted flame wars. In a friendlier atmosphere
> such misunderstandings would be figured out and solved way before
> they could end up in flame wars.
You sound so sweet when you put it this way, so innocent. The heated
atmosphere is mainly caused by your on-going bombing on this mailing
list.
> Hopefully this thread can be ended peacefully before it also ends up
> in a flame war.
Do I sound peacefully? I really don't care how it will end, Sigvald.
I'm way past that point. I just want to have this on-going problem
solved. That's my concern.
--- Dani?l
>> And *again* you mix up Barks with Rosa, in your controversial
>> attempts to connect your logic with reality.
> I just stated an opinion of mine, nothing more, nothing less.
> To indicate that that statement was an opinion *not* some kind
> of fact I added IMO (means: In My Opinion).
Carl Barks was born in 1920 (IMO). In 1964, he submitted a story to
Western Publishing (IMO), to get a job as comic book artist (IMO).
The story was rejected (IMO) and so Barks decided to become a cowboy
(IMO) instead, and he and his horse lived happily ever after (IMO)
in the Sahara, south-west of Australia (IMO).
I just stated an opinion of mine, nothing more, nothing less.
>> Sigvald, I must admit that I'm getting tired of these kind of
>> contributions from you.
> If you don't like to read other peoples opinions here then you
> have a problem, you see this is actually a place in where people
> is intended to state their opinions, whatever those may be.
No, most certainly *not* "whatever those may be".
Basically, you're just stating that you can do what you want, as
long as you decide it's an opinion. And if people don't like it,
they have a problem. Are you out of apologies, and is this your
next strategy?
>> Notice that this is the THIRD chance you're destroying in your
>> attempts to have "friendly" conversations on this mailing list.
> No. This time most of the quarrelling has occurred because some
> people takes my statements to the extreme.
Your statements *are* extreme.
> My opinion is much more balanced than most people realizes. For
> instance I was insulted just because I used the word "cult".
It wasn't just the word "cult". There were many other words. And
notice that I was complaining about *another* subject you were
involved in, not the wicca one.
>> Doing so, you're also destroying the atmosphere on this mailing list.
> I may not be THE, or at least not THE ONLY problem in this list (see
> above to see what I mean).
Well, I'm glad that you see that you may at least be ONE problem.
>> I thought you cared about this mailing list
> I do, Daniel, I really do!
Then, behave that way.
> Furthermore I think that much of the current problems are caused
> by the current heated atmosphere here. Small sparks from me seems
> to easily causing unwanted flame wars. In a friendlier atmosphere
> such misunderstandings would be figured out and solved way before
> they could end up in flame wars.
You sound so sweet when you put it this way, so innocent. The heated
atmosphere is mainly caused by your on-going bombing on this mailing
list.
> Hopefully this thread can be ended peacefully before it also ends up
> in a flame war.
Do I sound peacefully? I really don't care how it will end, Sigvald.
I'm way past that point. I just want to have this on-going problem
solved. That's my concern.
--- Dani?l
Arne Voigtmann
Questions about "A letter from Home"
Message 161 -
2003-08-11 at 00:04:56
Hello Don.
I'm curious if there is any new information about "A letter from
Home". Do you have finished the story? And if so, do you already know
what's your next project?
Oh, and there is another question that's burning me the tongue. What
happened to the illustration project with Duckburgian sights?
Best regards,
Arne.
I'm curious if there is any new information about "A letter from
Home". Do you have finished the story? And if so, do you already know
what's your next project?
Oh, and there is another question that's burning me the tongue. What
happened to the illustration project with Duckburgian sights?
Best regards,
Arne.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Sigvald and (his new windmill) Blum
Message 162 -
2003-08-11 at 01:09:15
Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
>> If Blum wants to do modern stories set in the
>> 21st century he should come up with his own
>> ideas and not use Barks' name to get attention.
>> From what I have read on DCML before Blum uses
>> vague ideas from Barks as basis for his
>> stories apparently in order to get attention.
>
> Let's convert it by filling in another innocent
> name. A name that will sound familiar to you,
> so you hopefully and finally will understand
> how *unreasonable* and *mistaken* you are about
> other creators:
>
> "If (Rosa) wants to do (old-fashioned) stories
> set in the (1950s) he should come up with his
> own ideas and not use Barks' name to get
> attention. From what I have read on DCML
> before (Rosa) uses vague ideas from Barks as
> basis for his stories apparently in order to
> get attention."
>
> See? Doesn't sound very nice and reasonable,
> does it?
No, it doesn't look reasonable, because it isn't reasonable.
Fact is that Don Rosa's stories are marketed as just that: stories by "Don
Rosa". The G. Blum story published in DD&Co last year was marketed as some
kind of a new Barks-story which it IMO wasn't.
On the other hand - recently I visited AC Siveb?k and read "Somewhere in
Nowhere" - that was a great story which IMO rightfully deserve it's credits
to Barks - I wish that it would be published in Scandinavia soon.
"Horsing around in History" is another great Story that IMO deserve it's
credits to Barks. So are the handfull of stories which Dan Jippes has drawn
based upon sketches by Barks.
Did you get my point now?
Sigvald
>> If Blum wants to do modern stories set in the
>> 21st century he should come up with his own
>> ideas and not use Barks' name to get attention.
>> From what I have read on DCML before Blum uses
>> vague ideas from Barks as basis for his
>> stories apparently in order to get attention.
>
> Let's convert it by filling in another innocent
> name. A name that will sound familiar to you,
> so you hopefully and finally will understand
> how *unreasonable* and *mistaken* you are about
> other creators:
>
> "If (Rosa) wants to do (old-fashioned) stories
> set in the (1950s) he should come up with his
> own ideas and not use Barks' name to get
> attention. From what I have read on DCML
> before (Rosa) uses vague ideas from Barks as
> basis for his stories apparently in order to
> get attention."
>
> See? Doesn't sound very nice and reasonable,
> does it?
No, it doesn't look reasonable, because it isn't reasonable.
Fact is that Don Rosa's stories are marketed as just that: stories by "Don
Rosa". The G. Blum story published in DD&Co last year was marketed as some
kind of a new Barks-story which it IMO wasn't.
On the other hand - recently I visited AC Siveb?k and read "Somewhere in
Nowhere" - that was a great story which IMO rightfully deserve it's credits
to Barks - I wish that it would be published in Scandinavia soon.
"Horsing around in History" is another great Story that IMO deserve it's
credits to Barks. So are the handfull of stories which Dan Jippes has drawn
based upon sketches by Barks.
Did you get my point now?
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Daniel's comments
Message 163 -
2003-08-11 at 01:32:31
Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> Are you out of apologies, and is this
> your next strategy?
First I am not out of apologies. I am always ready to apologize whenever
it's reguired. However recently (after I came back from Denmark)
I feel that I haven't done or said anything that really calls for an
apology. Furthermore a good friend who also reads DCML has told me in
private that there has been enough apologies - now it is a real improvement
in my style that is required.
>> No. This time most of the quarrelling has
>> occurred because some people takes my
>> statements to the extreme.
>
> Your statements *are* extreme.
This is pure generalizing and can't be taken to seriously. Fact is that my
statements are of varrying type.
>> My opinion is much more balanced than most
>> people realizes. For instance I was insulted
>> just because I used the word "cult".
>
> It wasn't just the word "cult". There were
> many other words.
Maybe so, but none of it was insulting or intended to be insulting towards
the "Wiccas".
> And notice that I was complaining about
> *another* subject you were involved in,
> not the wicca one.
True. But the atmosphere are a result of the wholeness, not just one
subject. I was just mentioning the other subject as an example.
> Well, I'm glad that you see that you may at
> least be ONE problem.
Well at least some people seems to make me look like a problem here.
> Then, behave that way.
That's exactly what my intention is. But it's very difficult to stay calm
when I feel that I am under frequent "fire".
> The heated atmosphere is mainly caused by
> your on-going bombing on this mailing list.
This is *not* true, at least not this time. I am *not* responsible for every
single harsh argument against me (Ref: the Wicca debate).
> I really don't care how it will end, Sigvald.
> I'm way past that point. I just want to have
> this on-going problem solved. That's my
> concern.
Well, I guess that you can help solving "this on-going problem" by not
taking this dispute to far.
Sigvald
> Are you out of apologies, and is this
> your next strategy?
First I am not out of apologies. I am always ready to apologize whenever
it's reguired. However recently (after I came back from Denmark)
I feel that I haven't done or said anything that really calls for an
apology. Furthermore a good friend who also reads DCML has told me in
private that there has been enough apologies - now it is a real improvement
in my style that is required.
>> No. This time most of the quarrelling has
>> occurred because some people takes my
>> statements to the extreme.
>
> Your statements *are* extreme.
This is pure generalizing and can't be taken to seriously. Fact is that my
statements are of varrying type.
>> My opinion is much more balanced than most
>> people realizes. For instance I was insulted
>> just because I used the word "cult".
>
> It wasn't just the word "cult". There were
> many other words.
Maybe so, but none of it was insulting or intended to be insulting towards
the "Wiccas".
> And notice that I was complaining about
> *another* subject you were involved in,
> not the wicca one.
True. But the atmosphere are a result of the wholeness, not just one
subject. I was just mentioning the other subject as an example.
> Well, I'm glad that you see that you may at
> least be ONE problem.
Well at least some people seems to make me look like a problem here.
> Then, behave that way.
That's exactly what my intention is. But it's very difficult to stay calm
when I feel that I am under frequent "fire".
> The heated atmosphere is mainly caused by
> your on-going bombing on this mailing list.
This is *not* true, at least not this time. I am *not* responsible for every
single harsh argument against me (Ref: the Wicca debate).
> I really don't care how it will end, Sigvald.
> I'm way past that point. I just want to have
> this on-going problem solved. That's my
> concern.
Well, I guess that you can help solving "this on-going problem" by not
taking this dispute to far.
Sigvald
Rich Bellacera
Disney Mickey Mouse comic strip returns to America
Message 164 -
2003-08-11 at 01:40:21
Stefan to me:
>> The last strip I ever got was Jan 14, 2002.
>
>
> Did you get strips after you got busy, or is one of the dates a typo?
Oooops! Typo (I've been doing that alot lately... mostly 'cause I am
trying to limit my on-line time as it is the only phone line in the house)..
Sorry! The date was Jan 14, 2000! The strip has Mickey, Minnie & Goofy
falling down a mountain and Mickey lands on Pete's back saying
"Something soft broke my fall."
Thanks for the catch!
I hope these old strips are published in bookform someday since I missed
many of them. I only started collecting the strips beginning with
MM051698 and ending wth MM011400. I don't believe I missed any
inbetween, but I don't know what happened before MM051698 or after
MM011400. *sigh*
Rich Bellacera
>> The last strip I ever got was Jan 14, 2002.
>
>
> Did you get strips after you got busy, or is one of the dates a typo?
Oooops! Typo (I've been doing that alot lately... mostly 'cause I am
trying to limit my on-line time as it is the only phone line in the house)..
Sorry! The date was Jan 14, 2000! The strip has Mickey, Minnie & Goofy
falling down a mountain and Mickey lands on Pete's back saying
"Something soft broke my fall."
Thanks for the catch!
I hope these old strips are published in bookform someday since I missed
many of them. I only started collecting the strips beginning with
MM051698 and ending wth MM011400. I don't believe I missed any
inbetween, but I don't know what happened before MM051698 or after
MM011400. *sigh*
Rich Bellacera
Stefan Persson
A curiosity Poll for the many nations represented here
Message 165 -
2003-08-11 at 01:50:40
>From: Rich Bellacera <xephyr at cwnet.com>
>Reply-To: xephyr at cwnet.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: A curiosity Poll for the many nations represented here
>Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:10:19 -0800
>In the USA, we typically designate that Mickey, Goofy, Clarabelle and Pluto
>all live in Mouseton (formerly also known as Mouseville).
>I am certainly aware that in many other countries Mickey and the gang live
>in the same town as Donald & Uncle Scrooge, hence, Duckburg.
In the new WDC issue, there's a story where Horace and Clarabell live in
Duckburg, though.
>What is Mickey's hometown according to your publications/native tongue?
SWEDEN/Swedish: Ankeborg (Duckburg)
Stefan
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>Reply-To: xephyr at cwnet.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: A curiosity Poll for the many nations represented here
>Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:10:19 -0800
>In the USA, we typically designate that Mickey, Goofy, Clarabelle and Pluto
>all live in Mouseton (formerly also known as Mouseville).
>I am certainly aware that in many other countries Mickey and the gang live
>in the same town as Donald & Uncle Scrooge, hence, Duckburg.
In the new WDC issue, there's a story where Horace and Clarabell live in
Duckburg, though.
>What is Mickey's hometown according to your publications/native tongue?
SWEDEN/Swedish: Ankeborg (Duckburg)
Stefan
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