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Michael Prior wrote:
>The other, 'new' Italian artwork often looks totally
>different and imho more exciting. Judging from the stories
>in "Topolino Noir", Giorgio Cavazzano or Corrado
>Mastantonuo could do great things on a project like
>"Life-of-Pete", with proper respect to, for example,
>classic Gottfredson or Scarpa stories.

I agree wholeheartedly with you on this view on the modern Italian artists.
I have no difficulty in mentioning a dozen classic Italian artists, who I
appreciate in spite of - or rather because of - very varied art styles. But
after a long period of decline, culminating in a darkest hour in the 80es
and then a new dawn, the originality and artistic freedom has been ever on
the increase. Incredibly enough, Walt Disney Company's taking over after
Mondadori, has been much more successful in Italy than it was in the USA.
It is noteworthy that Disney Italia has a school for Disney artists, the
"Academy", but after earlier attempts at 'house-breaking' artists into
drawing either in the style of Al Taliaferro or Giorgio Cavazzano, they are
now allowed and encouraged to develop their own style. This has resulted in
a wide array of very easily recognizable of artists technically much more
skilled than their predecessors, but not necessarily less artistically
ambitious, responsible for producing in the range of a 500 new pages every
month for the weekly Topolino and as much for other titles.

Speaking of Topolino Noir, it is noteworthy to mention that the writer of
all the stories in the book, Tito Faraci, pretty much started out as an
editorial staffer, writing introductions to the reprints of Gottfredsons
serials on "the yellow pages" of Topomistery. If any, he would be one to
consider as both respectful and informed enough to write a
'Gottfredsonically correct' Life of Pete. He may even know as much about the
subject as David Gerstein, impossible as it sounds, and also as a writer has
a more adult-oriented approach. Having read several of the stories in the
book, I would say that his scripts are not meant for children. Even his
dialogue is too hard for me to read in the original Italian with my limited
skills, and this perhaps corresponds to the Life of Scrooge, which was never
intended for a childrens book.

On a last note I must express my disappointment with you for forgetting to
mention Paolo Mottura, considering that it is his story which leads the
book. I'll leave it to Silvia Sizche's fans to urge you to try harder to
apprecate her art style, which reminds me a little of Sergio Aragones, and
is a far cry from the elegant brush strokes of the other artists mentioned
in your posts. But that is fine too, because there is not just one proper
way to draw, by which every artist must be measured. Not even in Disney art.

-- Ole

Hi *waves* I'm "Lurker Jen"....
*waves to Katie* It's me OchaGirl...
- Can you name five favourite artists?
~~~5? I don't know, I'm spoiled by Mr. Rosa! :-)  But I'll try~~
#1 Don Rosa/Carl Barks
#2 Carl Barks/Don Rosa
#3 Daan Jippes/ Romano Scarpa
#4 Marco Rota
#5 Daniel Branca
- What are your favourite stories by these artists?
~~~And if the world were destroyed, which of God's animals would I save...what a d*** hard question!....Recently I read a Carl Barks story about where Scrooge was paying Donald to worry for him...that was pretty funny...I rather liked "The Prize of Pizarro" too, just the way the two groups are totally oblivious to one another....
~~~I love almost every story done by Don Rosa....but I do like the Goldie/Scrooge stories *hangs head in shame for being a Goldie cult follower*, and even though I've only seen it in Danish (I speak English kinda, sorta), I like "The Dream of a Lifetime"; which is interesting in the fact that if you're a new Rosa-duck follower it might seem a rather scatter-brained story (keep in mind I couldn't read the dialogue), but if you've read some of his "Life and Times" series stories you might see it as an accumulation of a lot of Scrooge's life experiences. The story also gives Donald the chance to see Scrooge's life the way Scrooge perceives it as being. I was also happy that there were scenes with Goldie...and Scrooge together...heh... *hangs head again*.                                 &nb
sp;                                                   I also love the part where Donald gets thrown out on the street by his own grandparents, well their figments anyway :-). Actually there's a alot I like about this story, but too much to put here...
"Attaaaaaaaaaaaak!" was hilarious! I was laughing out loud! Oh the joy! ^____^....hehehe
His "Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" was great! That's a big "duh" because I don't hide the fact that I'm a big fan of Mr.Rosa....though I do realize there are other artists out there. I really liked his stories "The Dutchman's Secret" and "The Three Cabelleros Ride Again"!
I *can* go on....but...no...
~~~~Daan Jippes: I don't really know which I prefer, but he has a very "Barks" feel in his art. Which is nice, though no one will be able to replace Mr.Barks, God bless his soul.
~~~I like Marco Rota's 'Andold' stories, Donald..erm....Andold.....seems perfectly set in the old Briton story line; not sticking out like a sore thumb. I liked the regional jokes in the one where Andold gets a Viking personality. His art isn't bad either, it's a very comforting style.~~~
~~~I love Daniel Branca's fluid yet masterful artwork in his stories. He portrays action so well. And his stories usually have good plots (from what I've read).I really don't have a favorite story as of yet.~~~
 - What are your favourite scenes?
~~~Historical scenes, castles, good action sequences, scenes where you can actually tell where the character is going (not just having the background change everu scene).
- Which jokes did you like the most?Comedy timing is a big, big, big thing to me, even in comics. For example "Attaaaaaaaak" showed great over-amplified paranoia, as the story goes on the paranoia builds-up, leading to psychotic mayhem. And the comedic timing is 'muy bein'. Most of Don Rosa's stories have a good layout. Carl Barks also has a knack for that. I like Daniel Branca's humor too, nicely done visual comedy.
- What are your favourite characters?
~~~Hmmm with Katie, I know it'll be varieties of combinations of Scrooge and Goldie...hehehehehehehe....
For me, Scrooge, Scrooge with Goldie (though I wouldn't mind if Mr.Rosa did a story of just her, that'd be quite interesting.) Grandma Duck, Ludwig Von Drake and Donald when put in a good story.
- Are there situations in life which remind you of things you've read   in comics?- What's the first story you ever read?~~~I don't know. I don't even know when I got started collection them!!! Maybe 7 years ago? It's probably one of those beat up ones I have, maybe the one that has a reprint "The Great Steamboat Race". USA #48 perhaps.
Long winded, eh?
That is all~ I shut up now~ thank you....*plop*STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

Kjell Cron? <kjell.crone at ifsworld.com>n wrote:

> - Can you name five favourite artists?
> Carl Barks, Al Taliaferro, Floyd Gottfredson,
> Paul Murry, Tony Strobl.

Not to be unpolite, but why is Don Rosa not in your list?

Sigvald

Ole R Nielsen <oleroc at tdcspace.dk> wrote:

> I have strangely lost recollection of where
> Barks stated that Scrooge was born in Scotland.

Barks stated many places that $crooge is of Scottish descendense. His last
name McDuck shows the same. I haven't found any direct statements from Barks
that $crooge was actually born in Glasgow, Scotland, but in his foreword to
Chapter I of Lo$ Don Rosa didn't seem to doubt that that was Barks opinion
for a moment, so IMO there is no reason what-so-ever to doubt that *fact* -
unless you for some reason don't appreciate Don Rosa's work and his efforts
to bring continuity to the Duck-universe.

Sigvald

M.J. Prior <M.J.Prior at student.rug.nl> wrote:

> Yes, what you're saying here is basically:
> "All Italian artists are bad, because Marco
> Rota once wrote a story which showed Grandma
> and $crooge being brother and sister."

No, what I was actually trying to say is that the Italian artists seems to
have so strong feelings for their own Disney universe that they seem to
forget that the American Disney universe is the original and thus IMO most
correct one in such special cases.

> But I have to admit, Sigvald, that you *do*
> seem to try and pick your wordings with greater
> care and almost without typographical errors.

Yes, I have realized that I need to be more careful when addressing DCML in
order to be taken seriously and to avoid causing unwanted trouble. I do hope
that my efforts do help to reach these goals.

> And do you see that you're almost the only one
> here that can get all upset and worked up about
> something that contradicts Rosa?

Maybe so, it's sometimes difficult to don't comment such issues when one has
very clear opinions on these same issues.

> Please tell us about the things you like,
> instead of about what you don't like. Do you
> like Scarpa or Cavazzano? Feel like discussing
> them?

I don't know much about this Cavazzano, but are more familiar with Scarpa. I
like his "The Talisman of Amundsen" story.

Sigvald

SIGVALD GROSFJELD to me, 16-08-2003:

What an enjoyable email, Sigvald!

> - Gottfredson: "The Monarch of Medioca"
> - Murry: "Return of the Phantom Blot"

Interesting! I don't know these stories. What are they about?

> [Rosa's] "Gyro's First Invention" [D 2001-143] is off course
> special to me because I gave some inspiration to it.

Can you describe what exactly you contributed to this story?

>> - What are your favourite scenes?
> Not sure, but Little Helper walking in the badger's hole in
> "Gyro's First Invention" is indeed very special for me for
> reasons mentioned above.

I've seen the Little Helper fan-drawing on your website, and I like
it very much. That must be a great souvenir, together with the story
itself!

I supplied the basic idea of showing Rosa's Eisner Award as a
background detail in one of his stories, in order to show the fans
how it looks like. I didn't expect that Rosa would use it, in the
expanded Lo$ 12 (ARC US 296) as it turned out. So, that was quite
a surprise. (Please note that the funny way in which Rosa showed
the Award, was completely his own idea!)

>> - Which jokes did you like the most?

> Not sure, but both Rosa and Barks have many funny jokes.

I myself laughed out loud for quite a while, when reading the funny
ending of Barks's "The Mines of King Solomon" (US 19), which I really
didn't expect. (Am I the only one who didn't see that ending coming?)

The same for the great joke in the final half page of Rosa's "The
Son of the Sun" (AR 102), and the final joke of "The Treasure of
the Ten Avatars" (D 95153). They were just too funny to be true!

>> - Are there situations in life which remind you of things you've
>> read in comics?

> At least situations in real life do give me associations to Disney
> Comics, like when I eat cabbages as a part of my dinner or prunes
> as a part of the dessert.

This reminds me of a D-coded(?) story in which Donald buys a recipe
book about eating food that comes directly from nature. But when his
vegetarian meatballs fall off his plate, they bounce away like rubber
balls. One of them even breaks a window.

I'm often reminded of that scene when I try to cook myself, and it
has gone wrong.

Does someone recognize the story, by the way? It has been published
in The Netherlands, I think about twenty years ago. Maybe it's made
by Vicar.

<SPOILER>
At the end of the story, Donald finds out that even the book's writer
doesn't eat the results of his own recipies, prefering a restaurant
instead. An expensive one, because he can afford it because of the
success of his book. Very funny!
</SPOILER>

>> - What's the first story you ever read?

> Can't remember exactly. But I think that "Land Beneath the Ground"
> was one of the very first long Barks tales that I ever read.

One of the very first stories I remember is the Gyro Gearloose story
"The Great Pop Up" (US 37). I was about five, I think. It was at the
time when it was published in the Dutch weekly. I didn't fully
understand the story-line, but it interested me very much.

Another early story was "The Doom Diamond" (US 70). As a kid, I found
the two huge submarines very exciting. In fact, I *still* find them
exciting!

--- Dani?l

TIMO RONKAINEN, 15-08-2003

> "Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
> Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"

This quote must be from Barks's poetry picnic story. (WDC 79)

I think you made a typo. This is the text in panel 1.1:

"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"

--- Dani?l