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Olaf Solstrand:

> OK, a funny gag, but that ALSO means that Scrooge gets
> his software from Microsoft. Which is owned by Bill
> Gates, the richest man in the REAL world and certainly he > must be a powerful opponent to Scrooge in the Duckburgian > world as well.

In several Dutch stories and translations, references have
been made to 'Bill Gaatjes', indeed the richest man in the
world [even in the Duckworld(!)]. In H 20107, a Dutch
story by Mau Heymans, published in DD 2000-36, Bill
Gaatjes appears in person, fighting with the 'Sultan of
Bruin-Ei', the second richest man, for the last copy of
the first Dutch DD weekly from 1952. I guess this would
make Scrooge only the richest *duck*.

Michiel Prior.

Katie Sullivan:

> My reaction? I would be slightly annoyed, as that name
[O'Gilt, Goldie's last name]
> is slightly more well-known than "Emily" as Ms.
> Quackfaster's first name, but I still wouldn't lose any
> sleep over it.

I would tend to argue that Goldie's last name is,
contrariwise, an even more obscure 'fact' than Miss
Quackfaster's first name. Goldie's last name O'Gilt did,
afaik, only appear 'hidden' in a newspaper-cutting in
Scrooge's scrapbook in the opening splash panel of Lo$ 9,
while Miss Quackfaster's first name Emily appeared in a
*textballoon* in Lo$ 11, after Scrooge asked *explicitly*
for this specific piece of information.

Do you see what I mean? The obscure name 'Emily' has imo a
better chance of jumping to the eye than the only slightly
more obscure name 'O'Gilt'.

I hope you don't take my mail too serious. :)

By the way, I liked your 'Webbed Bliss' story!

Michiel Prior.

When I was a little kid, I recall getting a Disney magazine that had
some comics in it, which I have never seen again. I don't know if
anyone will remember it (or even how clear my own memory is), but I'd
appreciate any insight you guys can give.

Here's what I recall:

Time frame: Would have to be the late '70s/early 80's.

One of the comics featured Mickey Mouse with a Sherlock Holmes-like
character called "Sleuth." I'd never seen this character anywhere
else. Was this a one-time only character? The comic begins with
Mickey asking something to the effect of "I thought we were going to
Trafalgar Square to feed the pigeons."

Another "comic" (Actually told in text blocks) was along the lines of
the "How to" Goofy cartoons. This one was about mountain climbing.
One frame talked about how mountain climbers would be tied together in
a chain: "This way, when one man falls, they all fall! This keeps the
team together."

I feel like this was available in grocery stores, but most comics were
available this way back then. Also, it seems like it was a magazine,
more than a "comic" in the traditional sense. I wonder if it might
have been connected to the short lived Mickey Mouse Club revival that
happened around that time, but that may be a red herring.

I hope this helps. I look forward to your responses.

Mark Wright

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Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr> wrote:

>> KATIE:
>> This isn't really a very good comparison
>> because no one worships Zeus or Odin anymore,
>
> I don't know about Odin, but I understand that
> there is a revival of the ancient Greek
> religion over here...

Well there is a very few in the Scandinavian countries that worships Odin
and the other Gods in Valhalla. But I think that is mostly a protest against
the public paid christianity.

Sigvald

Indonesia/Indonesian: Kota Bebek (Duckburg)

But it used to be Kota Tikus (MouseTon) several years ago but recently they
never used that again.

Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal feeling kinda dizzy reading all the hot debates lately.

Hey Mark,

>When I was a little kid, I recall getting a Disney magazine that had some
comics in it, which I have never seen again.

The magazine is The Wonderful World of Disney, a supermarket
giveaway published (at the time) by Proctor and Gamble.
The comic stories with Mickey were "Mickey And The Sleuth", in which
a rather out-of-character Mickey plays Dr. Watson to The Sleuth, a brilliant
but clumsy Holmes-like London detective.
The Sleuth's enemies are a recurring gang called the College of
Criminal Knowledge. They are the thin, aristocratic Professor Nefarious; the
armadillo Armadillo, and the dopey Fliplip.

The "Sleuth" stories were produced by the Disney studio itself,
mostly for overseas use- which is why so few have ever appeared in the USA.
Aside from WWOD magazine, a few turned up in Western comics in the late
1970s, and a few more in Gladstone's DONALD AND MICKEY title around 1993.
Other Disney studio self-produced comics also appeared in WWOD; for
example, rare Fethry Duck stories in 1960s issues of the magazine.

David Gerstein

I wrote in a previous mail:

> Afaik, the first and probably only apparition of Miss
> Quackfaster's first name as 'Emily' was in Don Rosa's
> Lo$ part 11. Geoffrey Blum could easily have missed that
> piece of information as it's probably not very
> widespread.

To which Sigvald replied:

> Or it again proofs his (IMO) lack of respect for other
> artists, Barks included.

And Anders Christian Sivebaek added:

> AFAIK Mr. Blum wrote the preface for Rosa's Lo$ when it
> was published as a whole in the States, knowing that i
> would expect that he has read and studied the story.

I agree that Geoffrey Blum could indeed have been familiar
with the name 'Emily', but as it is such a tiny and minor
detail in this whole 212-page series, I can't blame him
for letting such a trivial 'fact' slip his mind.

I can't see how such a slip-of-the-mind can have anything
to do with a "lack of respect for other artists" and it
certainly hasn't anything to do with a "lack of respect
for Barks", since 'Emily' is a name made up by Don Rosa,
not by Carl Barks.

Following the same train of thought, you (Sigvald) might
as well blame Don Rosa for showing "lack of respect for
Strobl" by 'ignoring' the existence of a story by Toby
Strobl and Bob Gregory, in which Scrooge's mining
grandfather was called Titus, instead of Dingus, as Don
Rosa chose to call him.

As long as a story works, such details as previously
unknown names for hitherto partly unnamed characters
aren't important. At best, they work as tiny gags: "Gee, I
didn't know Miss Quackfaster actually had a first name!"
Such details aren't about 'respect' or 'references', but
more like "Hey, I need a name for this character, did she
already have any?"

And who says Emily and Florence are the same character?
Lo$ 11 takes place in 1930 and shows an Emily Quackfaster
working at Scrooge's office, while Blum's story takes
place in the early 21st century and shows a Florence
Quackfaster being employed by Scrooge. Doesn't sound
incompatible to me.

[Well, actually, of course it's the same character, but
there's really no need to fuss about it, I think.]

Michiel Prior.

[One of the Beagle Boys is called Butch.]

.....or "How To Tick off a Whole Lot of People With One Simple E-mail".

>> "If (Rosa) wants to do (old-fashioned) stories set in the (1950s)

>> he should come up with his own ideas and not use Barks' name to
>> get attention. From what I have read on DCML before (Rosa) uses
>> vague ideas from Barks as basis for his stories apparently in
>> order to get attention."

So....let me get this straight....Don bases his stories on one of his favorite fictional writers of all time (supposedly one of the favorite fictional writers of all of us), and he gets blasted for it.

Don takes time out from an extremely busy schedule to answer the questions of his readers...and he gets blasted for it.

He attempts to explain himself in a clear articulate manner (thereby granting more time than such messages deserve) and he gets blasted for it.

What exactly do you want from him? I may not like Geoffery Blum's stories, but at least I can come up with reasons about why I don't like them, and express that clearly and have a civil discussion about it. You Rosa detracters can't even seem to do that.

Oh, by the way, Sigvald....where exactly did you get that notion that's quoted above? I'd like to see exact postings and quotes from Don that say something to the affect of "I use Barks references in my stories, not because I like and respect Barks' work, but because I want attention." I think we'd all like to see those postings. Until then, your argument has no base whatsoever.

I applaud what Don has done for the hobby in every facet, from writing great stories, to being kind to his fans. I hope he doesn't cease doing that based on the random assaults by a couple (or just one) of detractors.

rodney.

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