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Søren Krarup Olesen
KATIE + BRIX:

> This sounds like a good topic for others to add to. What if any
> Disney comic art do you have permanently displayed in your house or
> office?

I have the original page 12 of "The Suspect Blonde" (S 80066) hanging in
my office. It's all there with Scarpa's pencil and Del Conte's ink... I
think that Brix Lichtenberg bought page 11, but this goes quite a few
years back, so my memory probably fails me. Brix, still here?

My office is actually a fine place to hang such a little treasure, and I
get many questions from the students that usually pop by.

The format is like a small poster, like two "American Letter format"
sheets put on top of each other--perhaps slightly bigger.

S?ren
Carey Furlong
Katie Sullivan wrote:

> This sounds like a good topic for others to add to. What if any
> Disney comic art do you have permanently displayed in your house
> or office?

Oooh. This could be a fun topic. I have two Barks lithographs displayed in
my house.

The first is "Astronomical Predicament" from Uncle Scrooge 29, "Island in
the Sky," one of my favorite stories (next to "The 24 Carat Moon" - US 24)

http://members.cox.net/flyingfortress/astro_predict2.jpg

The second is "The Golden Fleece" from Uncle Scrooge 12, "The Golden
Fleecing." This one is actually a serigraph.

http://members.cox.net/flyingfortress/goldfleece.jpg

I love both of these works of art, and both stories, very much.

Carey Furlong
Dana Point, California
Rich Bellacera
Gary Leach:

> It appears that the Disney comic book license no longer
> covers the reprinting of comic strips - that's now a
> license in itself.

Argh! Now it will be longer than ever before all those old Bill Walsh,
Floyd Gottfredson, Al Taliaferro, Merrill de Maris, etc. strips ever
see print again! Not only do you have to fight for decensorship, but
pay EXTRA for licensing... *sigh*

I guess it's no different than Paramount creating a different license
for every Star Trek series as a seperate franchise (Classic Star Trek,
Deep Space Nine, each individual movie, Voyager, the animated series,
etc. all have seperate licensing fees when a comic book company wants
to create a series based on one, they can only use characters and aspects
of them that exist in THAT particular license. If, they want Kirk to
meet Janeway, they have to pay for the license for both Classic &
Voyager, and then get permission from Paramount to do the crossover!).

I wonder if Disney has created a seperate licensing fee for each film
too, so we will never (thankfully) see Captain Hook in a Mickey Mouse
comic without the comicbook publisher having purchased the Peter Pan
license first? :-)

Still, I am saddened by the news concerning the Strip licenses. Its
so sad that places like Italy get all these great books full of reprinted
materials such as all the old Panchito and Carioca newpaper strips or
Gottfredson strips published in a single volume, and here in America,
where they were originally created, they are lost to us perhaps forever.

*sigh*

Rich Bellacera
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Olivier <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> c) please don't use such phrases as "this
> non-Disney Pogo-Stuff": it is very
> disparaging.

I didn't mean any harm with it. The only reason for mention it that way is
that I don't know it very much. I have *no reason* to doubt the quality of
Pogo though. I have even seen a few strips on a WEB-page lately.

> Pogo was an excellent strip with characters
> that happened to be animals instead of humans
> (to paraphrase a well-known duck author/
> artist).

I have no doubt at all about that. And that's probably why Walt Kelly is so
well-known and well-respected. While Carl Barks was kept anonymous by
Disney, Kelly's name was probably always connected with Pogo, just like
Charles Shulz name was connected to his work, etc. So just like SKO and
others say that we shouldn't trust Google-WEB-polls to much - we should IMO
also be very careful by ranking Kelly and other well-promoted
artists/creators over Barks, whose name wasn't promoted at all in his active
days.

Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Katie Sullivan wrote:

> This sounds like a good topic for others to
> add to. What if any Disney comic art do you
> have permanently displayed in your house or
> office?

Well in my *room* I have currently only one Disney comic art displayed on
the wall. It's the very nice fan-drawing I got from Don Rosa last year as a
reward for the inspiration I gave him for "Gyro's First Invention". It
actually shows ME as Little Helper! A very nice drawing indeed!

Sigvald
Gary Leach
Eta Beta wrote:

> Now, since we're talking the Mouse, and that feels refreshing
> to me, no offense meant to duck-only fans, I'd like to ask
> Gary what about Gottfredson ?
>
> Is the ban on some of the older stories still valid ?

At this time, yes.

> Could we see the entire Eega Beeva saga ?

Not for now. It appears that the Disney comic book license no longer
covers the reprinting of comic strips - that's now a license in itself.

Gary
Ole R Nielsen
I wrote:
>It is ironical under these circumstances to repeat my challenge: can anyone
>find a Barks reference placing Scrooge's birth or childhood in Scotland?

Being a digest reader, I don't know if anyone has beaten me to it, but there
is a reference in "The Golden River", where Scrooge remembers "I spent my
childhood scouring the hills of my native Scotland looking for firewood!".
That's what you get for not having read the stories in English originally,
as the Danish translation doesn't mention Scotland and even says he gathered
firewood in the woods.

-- Ole
Rob McCallum
Of all the Barks 10 pagers, my absolute favorite is the statue building
contest between U$ and a maharajah from WDC&S 138. Although it has been
reprinted several times (most recently in U$ 301) it always amazes me that
this story seems to be overlooked when Barks' best stories are discussed.

My local comic book dealer (which still has about 20 copies of the free DD
comic book day comic sitting by the counter) says that he has sold only 3 to
4 copies each of the new Gemstones. I have yet to see any of the new
Gemstones in WalMart or the local bookstore chains. Without a new base of
readers I worry that the comics will not last long. How is Gemstone doing
on developing a new readership?

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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Hi all!

This week a 16 page mini-booklet is attached to the weeklies in Scandinavia.
This mini-booklet contains 3 stories in English:
----------
KF 02-06-55 M "Goofy" (Walsh/Gonzales)
D 2003-011 "DD: Busybodies" (William van Horn)
KF 01-14-62 M "Goofy" (?)
----------
Furthermore the booklet also includes two pages with samples from Don Rosa's
"On Stolen Time".

The intention with this booklet is that kids can use it in order to learn
English in a fun way: "Learn slang and phrases with DD&Co". Slang and
special phrases are thus well-explained.

Based on this I have some friendly questions:

a) What does Gemstone think about Egmont publishing stories in English (even
though it's for educational purposes)?

b) Was this a wise thing to do by Egmont? (Remember I have previously been
told to avoid "colorful language" in DCML.)

c) I have read somewhere that one explanation of DD&Co's success in Norway
is that the language in it have always been very correct and *not* full of
slang. Is it thus possible that Disney comics with the use of standard
official English would have more success and be easier accepted, than the
present "colorful" version?

Sigvald
Daniel Van Eijmeren
NILS KLARTEKST, 18-08-2003:

> So for myself, I don't want a duck universe where everything is
> nailed down. I want an open texture so that I can do some
> creating myself when I read the stories.

This exactly represents my view and enjoyment in reading comics.
It's plagiarism of how I would have stated it, but I won't mind. :-)

Let's all take a look at this picture for a great Barks illustration
of discussions about universes, like the ones we're having lately:
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/8002_geographys_founders.jpg

It's my all-time favourite Barks watercolor!

> Did that make any sense at all? If not, I'm sorry. It's late
> but I just had to get this off my chest.

Well, at least your comments are very consistent. :-)
(Hey! Is someone making notes of them for future reference?)

--- Dani?l

P.S. Here's where I was, at the point of sending this email...
and I almost made the worst DCML-blooper of all time! I uploaded
the Barks watercolor scan, which I had renamed, and I placed the
link in this email. But I had copied a *wrong* watercolor file,
which I didn't notice. And, for your interest, some non-Disney
Barks watercolors contain frontal nude duck women...

Luckily, I checked the scan *before* sending this email. :-)

For the curious people who are really, *really* interested, older
than 30 years, and not easily shocked by any view, it was er...
this particular watercolor, but then shown as big as the one I've
just used: http://www.seriesam.com/barks/ndw7908.jpg

Phew! What an ego-crashing illustration of universes *that* would
have been for my preachy comments... Oh me! Oh my! (The shame!)

And so, also for your interest, *whoever* raises the boring subject
of mammal ducks *now*, definitely will become *my* target for ripe
eggs. As sure as eggs is eggs!

No... Wait-a-minute! I get a quite different view on trying to imagine
why some people here find mammal ducks so much more attractive, and
even an hot topic as well!

Well, why should I bother then? Go have fun with them, if you wish to.
I'll leave you alone from now on. :-D

What a world! Even though I for once noticed an error on time, which
both saved my day and the rest of my life, I think I'm just going to
have a serious nervous breakdown anyway... Just to be sure.

Universes? Who? What? Where? When? Why? - And HOW?
Qveep! Glip! Flup! Click! Chirp! Cheep!

"Call the doctor again!"
(Which Barks story?)

-- this email has been fully double-ckeched twice --
Daniel Van Eijmeren
KAI SAATRO to me, 18-08-2003:

>> [Sigvald] just keeps going on with forcing Don Rosa's name into
>> discussions, almost as if he's being paid for it.

> I wonder who would pay Sigvald? Probably those two ex-managers of
> Carl Barks - I guess they hate Don enough.

Mysterious, indeed! You raise some interesting questions here.
Who actually is paying the wages of Don Rosa's Little Helper?
And what can be done against its "friendly fire"?

--- Dani?l

P.S. Hide the batteries! Hide the batteries! :-)
Danehog
Olivier wrote:

>a/ Kelly did draw many covers for the Disney comics

The ones I've seen are great, featuring cover gags almost as clever as
thoughs of Barks'. (Their subtlety is their strength.)

Thoughts?
--
Dane
Danehog
rnjmvc at hotmail.com wrote:

>I have yet to see any of the new Gemstones in
>WalMart or the local bookstore chains.

Unfortunately, I doubt that you'll see the books in your local Wal-Mart
anytime soon. I remember reading of a ban they semi-recently passed regarding
comics in their stores (there was a rumor about censorship-driven mothers
complaining endlessly), although I think they still continue to sell Archie Digests,
MAD Magazine, and Disney Adventures. (Two of which are only "semi-comics"
anyway.)

I've yet to see the Gemstone comics in any chain bookstores here either--not
even the "Donald Duck Adventures" book, which I thought was going to find its
main (children) readership via chain bookstores. Hm.
--
Dane
Danehog
Sigvald wrote:

>This week a 16 page mini-booklet is attached to the >weeklies in
Scandinavia.
>This mini-booklet contains 3 stories in English:
>----------
>KF 02-06-55 M "Goofy" (Walsh/Gonzales)
>D 2003-011 "DD: Busybodies" (William van Horn)
>KF 01-14-62 M "Goofy" (?)
>----------
>Furthermore the booklet also includes two pages with >samples from Don
Rosa's
>"On Stolen Time".
>
>The intention with this booklet is that kids can use >it in order to learn
>English in a fun way: "Learn slang and phrases with >DD&Co". Slang and
>special phrases are thus well-explained.

At first glance, Walsh and Van Horn look like the perfect writers to
introduce English slang to children who speak English as a second language, but the
slang is either out of date (in Walsh's case), or completely random and made up
(as shown in Van Horn's work). If the intent was to influence Scandinavian
children to speak the most bizarre English ever, the goal has been achieved.

Or am I missing something here?
--
Dane
Cien2
>From: Danehog at aol.com
>The Average Sixteen Year Old's Wall: Large-Breasted Women
>Dane Martin the Sixteen Year Old's Wall: Pantless Ducks
>
>Should I start worrying yet?

Nope, coz you're not alone, the other half population of 16-year-old also doesnt hang or prefer "large-breasted women" pictures. Can u guess what other half population i refer to? ;-)

>From: Gary Leach <bangfish at comcast.net>
>> Could we see the entire Eega Beeva saga ?
>Not for now. It appears that the Disney comic book license no longer
>covers the reprinting of comic strips - that's now a license in itself.

Does this include the strips by Taliaferro as well? If it is, oh well, the feature from Gladstone's Donald Duck comic books that supplied me lots of fun was Al's strips besides the Barks' 10-pager reprints.

Can you share the reason of the strips being a license of its own instead of a license together along with other disney comic stories? (If it's not against the company policy, of course)

Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal and a guy named Joe from Singapore