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Talliaferro fans: Look out for #38 of the scandinavian weekly.
You'll find a *really rare* Taliaferro gem in that issue.

Cheers!

/Joakim.

PS. One of this lists Norwegian members might not want to read it,
since it isn't based upon facts in Barks or Rosas stories.
But I'm pretty sure most of the DCML:ers will enjoy it.

I wrote in a previous mail:

> Afaik, the first and probably only apparition of Miss
> Quackfaster's first name as 'Emily' was in Don Rosa's
> Lo$ part 11. Geoffrey Blum could easily have missed that
> piece of information as it's probably not very
> widespread.

To which Sigvald replied:

> Or it again proofs his (IMO) lack of respect for other
> artists, Barks included.

To which I replied:

> I can't see how such a slip-of-the-mind can
> have anything to do with a "lack of respect
> for other artists" and it certainly hasn't
> anything to do with a "lack of respect for
> Barks" since 'Emily' is a name made up by Don
> Rosa, not by Carl Barks.

To which Sigvald again replied:

> Correct! In my *personal opinion* it is when Blum uses
> vague ideas from Barks as basis for modern stories that
> he shows a lack of respect for Barks.

I think you're contradicting yourself here, Sigvald. If
you think that Blum shows a "lack of respect for Barks" by
"using vague ideas from Barks" and agree with me that
"forgetting a one-shot-first-name for an otherwise partly
unnamed character" hasn't anything to do with a "lack of
respect for other artists", then why did you bring this
"lack of respect"-thing up in the first place? It's
*totally irrelevant* to the subject of my first posting!
[Since 'Emily' isn't a "vague idea from Barks".]

Or are you blaming Blum for NOT using a "vague idea from
Rosa" (this being Miss Quackfaster's first name 'Emily')
while at the same time blaming him for USING "vague ideas
from Barks"? What do you think Don Rosa does? His whole
Lo$-series was based on "vague ideas from Barks".

[Well, actually, I don't think Barks' ideas about
Scrooge's past were *very* vague, but Don Rosa definitely
made them *more concrete*.]

I also wrote:

> Following the same train of thought, you
> (Sigvald) might as well blame Don Rosa for
> showing "lack of respect for Strobl" by
> 'ignoring' the existence of a story by Toby
> Strobl and Bob Gregory, in which Scrooge's
> mining grandfather was called Titus.

To which Sigvald replied:

> As far as I can remember Don Rosa has commented this
> himself on DCML not very long ago. By then he said
> something like it was a mistake by him - he
> didn't knew. *And I won't blame him.*

Yes, I knew that, and I knew you knew, that's why I chose
to take this as an example. Do you see you're using two
different measures for Blum and Rosa?

Michiel Prior.

Me:
> >>But is Barks really more popular than Rosa now?

Timo:
> How you measure popularity? By readership? (...)

I asked this question because I made a poll for the most popular Disney
creator on my website a couple of months ago. Don Rosa won (45%), Barks was
the second (18%), Vicar was the third (8%). So Don Rosa is the most popular
Disney creator in Poland, but I wasn't suprised because:

- When the Barks story was in every issue of be-weekly, and later weekly,
there were no credits given
- There were three Rosa's albums here in Poland and, so far, no Barks'
albums :-(

Of course the results would be totally different in the countries with
longer Disney-tradition, but I think they could be quite similar in
countries where Disney started after cold war.

Mateusz Lis

At 10:31 AM 8/12/2003 +0200, "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr."wrote:
>Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
>
> > Barks made modern stories himself, and Blum
> > followed that tradition. That's not an opinion.
> > That's a fact.
>
>Barks did *not* set his stories in 2003. That's a fact too.

That's because he wasn't alive in 2003. Barks' stories took place during
the same time that he was writing them. Blum is alive now, and his story
takes place now. How is this contradicting Barks? I don't think that duck
writers and artists should neccesarily be limited to doing exactly what
Barks did, but in either case, your argument doesn't hold water.

>The same way it would IMO be wrong to set a Poirot or a Ms Marple story to
>2003.

Has anyone here read Archie Comics? In the 1940s, Archie took place in the
forties. In the 1990s, Archie took place in the ninties. Now, Archie and
his gang are all in high school circa 2003.

Sure, Rosa might place his stories in a generic 1950s (for the most part)
and Blum might do a 2003 story. But they are different creators with
different takes on the ducks. That doesn't make one of their takes "right"
and the other "wrong." Both succeed at what they are trying to accomplish,
both of them like the ducks, and both have readers who like their stories.

For the record, I didn't really like "World Wide Witch." But I could
appreciate that some people might like it, I could appreciate that it's a
good story to bring in today's kids (which is something sorely need in the
U.S., where almost no kids read comics anymore), and I could tell from his
text piece that he, like all of us, loves duck stories.

- Mark S.

At 07:16 PM 8/7/2003 +0200, Daniel J. Neyer wrote:
>I wanted to ask Mr. David Gerstein if his
>Mickey stories are going to be carried by Gemstone as they were in the
>past; to my mind, David and Romano Scarpa are the only writers who ever
>successfully captured the "real" Mickey besides Floyd Gottfredson. The
>first Gemstone issues have not featured stories by any of these "Big
>Three", and I'm kind of disappointed. They've only run a couple of short
>tales that are far inferior to David's fine work.

I second that request! If anyone at Gemstone is listening, please print
David Gerstein's Mickey stories. I love the few that I've been fortunate
enough to read and it would be a shame if the rest never saw print here in
the U.S.

- Mark S.

RICH WROTE:

I wonder if such an intricate detailing of the
Life & Times of Pete could also be accomplished and hence turn a relatively
unpopular character into one of Disney's bigger stars

AND I AGREE:

I think it could work. A few years ago there was a wonderful Pete story in the
Norwegian DD&Co (sorry, I'm not in my library now so I can't give you the story
code, but it may have been drawn by Ferioli).

Anyway, in this story Pete is hit by a ray that turns him into a fast-growing baby.
Mickey decides to raise him, believing that love and care can turn him into
a good citizen. It doesn't work, of course. Pete grows up to be just as bad
as he was before. But in the last panel he wistfully thinks back upon their time
together - how Mickey played with him and taught him to ride a bike. Frustrated,
he cries out: "I MUST hate him, because otherwise I might like him!"

I want to know more about this guy, don't you?

Nils from Norway

DANIEL WROTE:

I think there are a few Barks stories in which the nephews drive
Donald's car. I can think of only one example, the story about the
howlingest cat in the whole neighborhood. (WDC 76)

AND I THOUGHT OF ANOTHER ONE:

"Sheriff of Bullet Valley". My grandson, who thinks 13 years is far
too long to wait for a driver's lisence, makes me read those panels
over and over again.

Nils from Norway

After reading Rich's latest posting I realize that the story I remembered
was "History Re-Petes Itself", drawn by Scarpa - not Ferioli. Sorry.

Nils from Norway