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Rodney wrote
> I tried to go on hunger strike, but I gave up after 4 hours..... :-)

I fear that will not be enough to impress the media. Maybe you can do something
different (like sitting on a pole for as long as you can) to bring public
awareness to our cause.

Cord

OLIVIER:

> I mostly remember people were annoyed by the comedy treatment.

I'm not so sure about the comedy part being the problem, given that one
version of Greek mythology that is popular over here is that by Tsiforos,
which gives the comedy treatment to the entire corpus of Greek mythology.
Tsiforos, however, uses humor to present all the sex and violence in the
myths, not as a substitute for them, thus preserving the original stories.

> Maybe they should have used "Herakles" in the Greek dubbing

The movie was called "Iraklis" (Heracles) in Greek, so I assume that this
was also the name of the character in the movie in the dubbed version.
Besides, I don't think there is any way of using the Latin name (Hercules)
in Greek!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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"Fame is the accumulation of misunderstandings around a well-known name."
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Re: details of the ORIGINAL print run of the complete 1930-1955 Gottfredson
strips.

I've requested and received two extensive emails (one in 1999 and another a
couple of days ago) from Byron Erickson, who, as the one who actually
produced them, is the only person who knows all the facts about the
publication and circulation history of the very first, large format,
hardback edition of the Gottfredson Mickey Mouse strip collection. The facts
I received from him do not coincide with much of the information recently
posted in the "official" history of the original production. I've asked him
for permission to post a full account of the process, which I've edited from
his emails, but he hasn't had time to approve my editorial version yet. I
AM, however, posting below two facts that need to be made clear--regarding
the NUMBER of original first-generation copies printed and the SIZE of the
original production copies.

Here are Erickson's own words:

"The total print run was 22. Or make that 23 -- I let a financially indigent
friend root through the waste pile and assemble a complete set out of the
castoffs."

"Again, 20 bound sets, 2 unbound 'quality' sets, and one unbound 'trash'
set."

"The SIZE of the pages, though, is NOT A4 -- it's 10 X 14 inches, which
might sound strange today, but in the late 70s it was a 'standard' copy
machine size, and perfect for the Gottfredson strips which were reproduced
three a page (except for the first year or two, when the strips where
taller, so only two could fit on a page)."

Regarding the Stajano/Gori interview as it appeared in Carl Barks:
Conversations:

Frank Stajano sent me the ORIGINAL questions and answers in English, from
which I edited the version that appears in the Conversations book. As far as
I know, it was NOT a back-translation from Italian but a transcription of
the original mailed questions and answers (see below). Also, I had promised
Frank and Leonardo that I would clearly indicate that I had cut out some of
the questions and answers dealing primarily with Gottfredson (for the book's
word length requirements), and I took a few liberties with rephrasing some
of the questions for concision. Somehow, in the rush to get the book to
press to meet the deadline, I failed to make sure to include these important
pieces of information about the differences between the two published
versions of the interview. I can find no record (and I keep good records)
that I did, in fact, request that this information be inserted in the head
note. I apologize to Frank, Leonardo, and all readers of the book for this
glitch on my part. I would never have noticed it if Daniel had not raised
the question on the list. I thought this information was in the head note to
the interview in the book, and I was quite surprised to find it wasn't,
which sent me back to my electronic files to see whose fault it was.
Apparently it was MINE.

There were enormous quantities of small details like this that slipped by me
because I had no help with the proofreading and other pre-production aspects
of the book (as is always the case, the clean appearance of the published
book makes all the background struggle disappear).

Also, Frank could not remember the precise dates, in part because neither
Frank not Leonardo was physically present at the "interview," which was
conducted by mail. Here is part of the exchange Frank Stajano and I had back
in June 2002:

> >
> > The interview was definitely done in 1998. I won't be able to give you
an
> > exact DAY because I wasn't even there: I sent off the questions and some
> > time later I got the answers back. It must have been mid-1998, say
between
> > May and July. I can probably find out at least the month once I'm back
at
> > home. The book was published in November.
> >
>
>Is it accurate to say that the interview was conducted by mail or by fax
>rather than in person?

Yes. Answers went in by email and came back by postal mail (through Gerry
[Tank]
in both cases).

> I take it that neither you nor Leonardo were present
>at the interview?

Correct.

Again--I had planned to include this information, but I believe the press
decided not to confuse the issue by indicating these things, though I guess
that decision was made on the phone rather than by email because I can find
no record of it. Again I apologize for any confusion or historical
misrepresentation that may have arisen from these omissions.

Donald Ault
Professor of English
University of Florida
ault at ufl.edu
http://www.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/

OLIVIER to CORD WILJES, 28-08-2003:

>> Oh well, so you leave me no chance but to drop meteorites from the moon
>> onto your comics bin.

> I'll ask Gyro to think of something.
> Quiz: what else did Gyro invent to protect Scrooge's safe (Barks' stories)?

Gyro has invented an impervi-wax money case (WDC 171).
And in "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" (H89174), Gyro invents cheese to lure
away rodents from Scrooge's money bin.

Those are at least two inventions I remember, apart from the already
mentioned super-strong forbidium money bin (DISBP 1).

--- Dani?l

"Call the doctor again!"
(Which Barks story?)

RODNEY BOWCOCK:
>>> I tried to go on hunger strike, but I gave up after
>>> 4 hours..... :-)

CORD WILJES:
>> I fear that will not be enough to impress the media. Maybe
>> you can do something different (like sitting on a pole for
>> as long as you can) to bring public awareness to our cause.

Daniel van Eijmeren:
> Another action would be trying to swim to Catalina balancing a
> grapefruit on a stick of Macaroni.
> Or maybe we can learn dogs to talk, saying nasty things about Disney.

I get a feeling here that endeavors like these, while surely
bringing the much deserved publicity to our cause, will possibly
not give justice to its seriousness.

Maybe we should take more drastic measures like traveling back in time to
old California and claim the copyright on Mickey Mouse before anyone
else does.

Cord

i made a wrong guess as i realized it was not said by the talking animals in
the Think Box Bollix story, but i know i've read that somewhere but cant
remember the exact title. I can only remember it's a story where donald wont
allow hdl to have a dog because he said talking dog is un-possible then gyro
gave one for em for free (?). and it's the last 2 panels where the dog said
it and donald had to sell tv (?), referring to the tough times. hmm, have to
browse thru my CBLiCs again to find and read that story.

Keep On DCML-ing,
Arie Fachrisal received 3 DCML digests in one day.

Dani?l:
>>> Gyro has invented an impervi-wax money case (WDC 171).
>>> And in "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" (H89174), Gyro invents cheese to
lure
>>> away rodents from Scrooge's money bin.
>>> Those are at least two inventions I remember, apart from the already
>>> mentioned super-strong forbidium money bin (DISBP 1).

Those are the ones I ahd in mind. I can't think of any other.
Scrooge has many security devices and several safes, but Gyro is rarely
involved in their conception. In the "Cave of the Winds" story, he only
advises to trade the money for Duckburg Saving Bonds-- well, his alphabet
soup advises to do so.
It's a bit odd, as this could make for funny Money Bin plots.

>>>> "Call the doctor again!" (Which Barks story?)

Could it be from the lost coin story? The one where Donald loses a coin, and
one persons picks it, then another, and the last one eventually drops it
from a plane (thinking it might bring him bad luck). It's a rare coin, hence
Donald's reaction. When the coin ricochets and lands on his desk and he
finds it, he loses his mind.
Is that it?

>>>Another action would be trying to swim to Catalina balancing a
>>>grapefruit on a stick of Macaroni.
>>>"Times are tough, huh, bud?" (Which Barks story does this email refer
to?)

Easy. the talking-dog story-- WDC&S 152, May '53 (WDC&S iC Album 23).

A tougher one (?):
"Hey you! Take a good look at my face! Do you see any wrinkles?"
"21760"

Olivier