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Alecto
My short list of Barks favourites, in no particular order -

1. Donald's Monster Kite.
2. Tralla La
3. Billions to Sneeze At
4. The Seven Cities of Cibola
5. Flip Decision
6. Gladstone's Terrible Secret
7. Stranger than Fiction
8. A Cold Bargain
9. Somethin' Fishy Here
10.The Purloined Putty
11.Bee Bumbles
12.A Stone's Throw From Ghost Town

Tony
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Steve <SBHSN at aol.com> wrote:

> Regarding your recent Google-rankings of
> various Disney artists (regardless of
> statistical validity it was an interesting
> exercise), were you surprised at the high
> hit-count of Walt Kelley?

No not at all! From the previous debate at DCML I learned that he is not
well known for what he once did for Disney, but because he did promote
himself by doing this non-Disney Pogo-stuff.

It would be as if the Asterix-creaor Uderzo started doing Disney-stories
now.

Sigvald
M.J. Prior
I guess now I've really said something stupid. Relax,
Olaf, please don't be upset: I don't now the slightest bit
about the Norwegian comics situation and yes, I've used
Inducks to look up the stories in the book I've read, in
order to see if they had been published in Norway and I
didn't know that the Norwegian pockets series weren't
indexed.

"Topolino Noir" is an Italian *book* comprising ten
Mouse-universe stories, written by Tito Faraci and drawn
by various Italian artists (Mottura, Cavazzano, Ziche, De
Vita, Scarpa, Celoni, Mastantonuo). I don't think it will
be published in this form outside Italy, but most of the
stories in it have been published in the Dutch and
Scandinavian pockets series (and now I understand this
must indeed include Norway). [I suspected the contents of
these series to be the same for every country and that's
why I tried to suggest some stories to Sigvald.]

> And, are you saying that NO NINETIES' ITALIAN MICKEY
> STORIES have been printed in Norway?

No, of course not. I wanted to recommend the stories I've
read, but I couldn't find their Norwegian publication and
that's why I asked if Sigvald had read any Italian Mickey
stories, because he only wrote about Italian Duck stories.

Maybe the Swedish pockets series is roughly equivalent to
the Norwegian series? Would you be able to find these
stories if I listed their Swedish publication?

Michiel Prior.
M.J. Prior
Look!
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/issue/it/TNOIR+1

I TL 2227-5 (P? fel sida!) KAP 235
I TL 2147-1 (L?ng natt f?r kommissarie Klov?n) KAP 212
I TL 2196-1 (P? spaning efter tomten) KAGJ 4
I TL 2296-1 (Geniet i skuggan) J 2000-08
I TL 2189-1 (Den otrolige Vladimir) KAP 224
I TL 2238-4 (Svarte Petter som polis) J 1999-06
I TL 2243-1 (Tidens flod) KAP 239

Olaf: I tried to list the stories from "Topolino Noir" for
as far as they've been published in Sweden. I don't know
if this could be of any use to you, especially since I
could easily have let you look it up yourself, but well,
here's my list. I especially recommend the last two
stories.

Michiel Prior.
Stefan Persson
>From: "M.J. Prior" <M.J.Prior at student.rug.nl>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Olaf: "Topolino Noir"
>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:24:44 +0200

>Look! http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/issue/it/TNOIR+1

Why are you using outdated data from Per's site instead of using COA? Per
hasn't updated anything for a year, and many files are even two years old!

Stefan

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Ole R Nielsen
Olaf Solstrand:
>What? NOW I'm baffled and confused. Not that I'm familiar with the
>title "Topolino Noir", but if it's so popular I would have guessed it would
be
>out in Norway... And, are you saying that NO NINETIES' ITALIAN MICKEY
STORIES
>have been printed in Norway?
>Hmm... Did you use INDUCKS? If so, please note that most of the
>Norwegian "Pocketbok"s are not indexed... so they won't be listed. However,
if
>they're published in Sweden or Denmark, they most likely are here as well.
Are
>they?

Indeed. At least seven of these stories have been published in Danish pocket
books, and presumably also in Norway. I'm not sure about the numbers, but
you could look for them in DD Pockets 198, 210, 221, and 225, Onkel Skrue
1999-06, and 2000-08, and also a christmas pocket from 1998.

>If not, I'm shocked. Yes, I think old Italian Mickey stories are good, but
that
>doesn't mean I don't want new ones... So what is going on?

The thing is that for a very long time, the pockets have been stuffed with
duck stories and usually only one Mickey story has been allowed. And a
couple of years ago this went and became replaced with an Egmont-produced
one. Not that thay are bad at all, but it's a crying shame, that with the
100-page pockets cancelled, there is now absolutely no titles with an open
slot for an Italian Mickey story in Egmont publications today.

>Not to be rude, Michiel, but... PLEASE tell me you're wrong here. If more
than
>a decade of good stories is hidden from us up here, I can't really seem to
>figure out why. So... Could it be that you have read wrong (or that INDUCKS
let
>you down), or is the Norwegian cimic situation really that bad?

As you can probably figure by (real) statistical analysis, we are currently
only getting a small fraction of what appears in Italian publications, week
in and week out, and not necessarily the most exciting bits: the Egmont
pocket books seem to rumble along in a very conservative manner, with little
room for experiments. Most sadly, it would appear that Gemstone's Take-Along
books are limited to taking material from these. It will be interesting to
see how the response to readers' requests will be, compared to the old
Gladstone days.

Michiel made only a small, but all to common logical error these days:
Assuming that unsuccesful research proves something not to exist. In this
case, not due to lack of diligence in searching, but incomplete inducks
data. Let that be a lesson to you all.

It is ironical under these circumstances to repeat my challenge: can anyone
find a Barks reference placing Scrooge's birth or childhood in Scotland?

-- Ole
Katie Sullivan
Daniel wrote:
>I like "Business Long Overdue" (75-15) very much.
>http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/barksoils/reunionoil.jpg
>It's one of my most favourite Barks paintings.

Mine too! I have a print of it framed over the bureau in my
bedroom! ^_^
(I also have a print of "Nobody's Spending Fool" above my bed!,
right below the "Hearts of the Yukon" lithograph that came with
my Gladstone Lo$ album. ;)

This sounds like a good topic for others to add to. What if any
Disney comic art do you have permanently displayed in your house
or office?

Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/

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Danehog
Nils wrote:

[snip]

> Did that make any sense at all? If not, I'm sorry. It's
> late but I just
> had to get this off my chest.

Actually, it made *perfect* sense, thanks! It's exactly what I was trying to say with some of my earlier, badly-written, half-baked contributions. (Using a period instead of a question mark? Writing "factuation" instead of "infactuation?" What is happening to me?)

These are *comic books*... *Disney* comic books. The inconsistencies are part of the fun--an open-ended fun that should be interpreted in various ways. I don't see why everything has to have such a strict continuity when there really isn't a true *reason* to. Barks molded and shaped his Duck "universe" (I'm really, really getting sick of that word) as he went along, and there's no reason why artists can't go in the directions they wish to--and contradict them!

I know this topic has been beaten to death by a large mallet, and I'm not helping, but I didn't want to interfere with the Mallet Universe, because it was established that all mallets are round instead of square, and I thought they were square, and Fawn Losa wanted to base his round mallet vision off the round mallet vision of the original creator. I hope no one was deeply offended.
--
Dane
Danehog
Sigvald wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I just recieved he following very interesting mail in my
> Yahoo-mail box:

[snip]

Is it just me, or have I seen something very similiar to this in an old letter column? Anyway, although this makes absolutely no sense to me because math is the spawn of Satan himself, I can appreciate the time and effort put into such calculations, although the entire idea that someone would sit down and figure out such a thing kind of scares me.

Still, I'm all for bizarre calculations and whatnot.

The real question is: how many times did Donald mentally and physically abuse Huey, Duey, and Louie before 1951?
--
Dane
Danehog
John Lustig wrote:

> Recently, there was a very nice article in the Canadian Post newspaper about the return of Disney Comics to North America. Both Steve Geppi and William Van Horn. You can read it at:
>
> http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife/story.html?id=BC47AB52-
> 1C9D-48C8-B6A8-4381A9192CD9

Great! It's nice to see that *some* effort is being put out to advertise the new Gemstone books, although I really wish Disney itself could have done *something* to advertise the comics, such as placing posters and/or free brochures in the Disney Store.

Still, it's nice to see newspaper articles such as the one you mentioned. Thanks for sharing it!
--
Dane

(I apologize if this message happened to show up twice. I'm temporarily using a Web site-based e-mail system that's... unreliable, to say the least, while I'm at my grandparents'.)
Danehog
Katie Sullivan:

> This sounds like a good topic for others to add to. What if any
> Disney comic art do you have permanently displayed in your
> house
> or office?

The only Disney comic art I have displayed right now is a Rosa-autographed "Son of the Sun" poster that I bought at a comic book convention roughly a year ago. It's now hanging on my bedroom wall.

The Average Sixteen Year Old's Wall: Large-Breasted Women
Dane Martin the Sixteen Year Old's Wall: Pantless Ducks

Should I start worrying yet?
--
Dane
Olivier
Hi!

>>> No not at all! From the previous debate at DCML I learned that he is not
>>> well known for what he once did for Disney, but because he did promote
>>> himself by doing this non-Disney Pogo-stuff.

a/ Kelly did draw many covers for the Disney comics
b/ Kelly did not "promote himself" any more than Barks or Gottfredson or
anyone did
c/ please don't use such phrases as "this non-Disney Pogo-Stuff": it is very
disparaging. Like Gottfredson's mouse and Barks' ducks, and to an even
greater extent actually, Pogo was not dumb funny animal comics "stuff"

>>>It would be as if the Asterix-creaor Uderzo started doing Disney-stories
now.

Nope. Kelly didn't make such drastic a change; like Barks' DD & U$, Pogo was
an excellent strip with characters that happened to be animals instead of
humans (to paraphrase a well-known duck author/artist).

As I've said previously, try and find some Pogo strips (in a library? on the
web?): you will discover an immense comic strip author/artist and find a new
source of joy.

Olivier
Francesco Spreafico
Katie Sullivan wrote:

> This sounds like a good topic for others to add to. What if any
> Disney comic art do you have permanently displayed in your house
> or office?

Well, this is easy!
At the moment on my wall I have these originals:

http://www.dimensionedelta.net/dcml/topolino.jpg (Romano Scarpa)
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/dcml/molla.jpg (Luciano Gatto)
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/dcml/lylascia.jpg (Claudio Sciarrone)
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/dcml/millicent.jpg (Alessandro Barbucci)

I plan to put all of the sketches I have (you can see them all here
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/dcml/intro.html, my introdu(k)tion page) on
the wall... but the wall is little, I don't know how to do.

--
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/
"Vi faccio vedere *io* chi sono *io*!! *Io* vi compro la fabbrica e
*tutto*!!"
~ Scrooge, from I TL 174-A
Olivier
Hi again everyone!

Katie:

>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>> >I like "Business Long Overdue" (75-15) very much.
>>> >It's one of my most favourite Barks paintings.

>> Mine too! I have a print of it framed over the bureau in my
>> bedroom! ^_^
>> (I also have a print of "Nobody's Spending Fool" above my bed!,
>> right below the "Hearts of the Yukon" lithograph that came with
>> my Gladstone Lo$ album. ;)

>> This sounds like a good topic for others to add to. What if any
>> Disney comic art do you have permanently displayed in your house
>> or office?

Nice topic!
I have all five of Dreidreizhen's calendars/portfolios (1995-1999) and have
framed several; I rotate them.
One large window, the furniture (and lots of books) take up a lot of room,
and a few recent additions complicated things even more.

On the wall to my right:
- one a vertical frame (50*40); currently, "Only a Poor Old Man" (from
Ehapa's cover portfolio)

Right in front of me, above the computer:
- Helnwein's "Sixtieth Birthday - Donald Duck" poster (80*60 cm - vertical);
here to stay
- next to it (left) 2 horistonal frames (50*40) with Barks paintings;
currently, "Heat Wave" (turned out to be most literally appropriate this
year) and "Return to Morgan's Island" (I love that one; nice colors)
- left of these, above bookshelves, a vertical frame; currently, Daan
Jippes' "Mystery of the Swamp" cover (DDA7) (which I scanned, cleaned up,
and printed on A3 paper-- 42*29.7); I love this cover; I'd like to do the
same with "Merry Christmas" (Barks cover), "The Old Castle's Secret", ... ;
I did that with "Terror of the River" (scanned from the first volume of
the hardcover CBL)

Left wall (ie, sitting at the computer), above the door:
- a map of The Shire (from a set of 6 maps from TLOTR)-- sued to be Don
Rosa's signed Pertwillaby / Captain Kentucky poster; I'll put it up
elsewhere

Same wall, above all my Disney comics:
- two vertical frames; currently, "Sailing the Spanish Main" (one of my
favorites) and "Flubbity Dubbity Duffer"
- to the left, above the bookshelves & my bed, a splendid Dufex map of
Middle Earth (80*60)
- also two horizontal frames, currently with "An Embarrassment of Riches"
and "Sport of Tycoons" underneath

Finally, above my bed (my head, ie):
- one vertical frame with "Live It Up, Kid!" (never changes)
- one horizontal frame, currently holding "Dam Disaster at Money Lake"

That's all.
Well, in 30*20, frames I also have a couple of pictures (printed scans--
"The Expert", "Terror of the River", ...) to display with my Disney comics.
Plus a few Disney items.
I wish I had more room to store more books & CD's, and hang more prints (the
Money Bin blueprints poster, for instance).

Best wishes,

Olivier
Rich Bellacera
Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
(Email removed)

First, my preference is NOT to see a bunch of Barks reprints. Not because I don't
like Barks, but because I have so many re-re-re-reprints of his works. However, I
realize Barks' presence sells Disney comics, so who am I to argue with success....
I just as that the issues are not inundated with Barks reprints, and maybe not
EVERY issue of WDC&S has one. If every month has a requirement for a Barks
reprint, then limit the Every-Month requirement to only UNCLE SCROOGE and place a
Barks reprint in WDC&S only every once in a while.

I would also ask that the material previously reprinted in Gladstone's comics for
Gottfredson be sparingly reprinted, though at a much quicker pace than Barks
because much of Gottfredson's stuff has rarely seen reprint with a few exceptions.

That said, here is what OLD stuff I'd love to see printed again:

Floyd Gottfredson:
"Mickey Mouse Vs. Kat Nipp"
"Boxing Champion"
"Clarabelle's Boarding House"
"High Society"
"The Gypsies"
"Mickey Mouse Sails for Treasure Island"

FG/Ted Osborne:
"The Sacred Jewel"
"In Search of Jungle Treasure"

FG/Merrill de Maris
"The Mighty Whale Hunter"
"The Plumber's Helper"
"An Education for Thursday" (admittedly, this will be tough)
"Love Trouble"
"Supersalesman"
"The Mystery at Hidden River"
"The Gleam"

FG/Bob Karp/Dick Shaw:
"Goofy and Agnes"
"The Black Crow Mystery"
"Goofy's Car"
"Working to Win"
"Mickey Mouse's Wild Holiday"

FG/Bill Walsh:
"The Nazi Submarine" (another tough one)
"Mickey Mouse On a Secret Mission"
"Pluto the Spy Catcher"
"The War Orphans"
"The Pirate Ghost Ship"
"Billy, The Mouse"
"Mickey's Great-grandfather"
"The Mystery Next Door"
"The New Girlfriend"
"Mickey's Mini-plane"
"Sunken Treasure"
"Trailer Trouble"
"The Candidate"
"The Little Genius"
"Goofy's Boat Race"
"Eviction"
"Goofy's Rocket"
"Mickey's Menagerie"
"The Cure for Hiccups"
"The Search for Geeko"
"Arctic Adventure"
"Morty's Escapade"
"The Fiendish Cat"
"Truant Officer Mickey"
"Goofy's Inheritance"
"Mickey the Icky"
"Pluto's Amnesia"
"Peg-leg Pete Reforms"
"Home Movies"
"Shutterbug Mickey"
"The Boxer"
"Mickey's Strange Flower"
"The Midget Racer"
"Mickey's Pet Shop"
"Mickey's Helicopter"
"Pluto's Trial"
"The Spook Specialist"
"Mickey Writes the Songs"
"Horace's Nerves"
"The Skyscraper Adventure"
"The Foundling"
"Mickey Makes a Killing"
"Pflip the Thnuckle-booh"
"The Kumquat Question"
"The Atombrella and the Rhyming Man"
"An Education for Eega Beeva"
"Pflip's Strange Power"
"Be-junior and the Aints"
"Itching Gulch"
"The Syndicate of Crime"
"The Moook Treasure"
"Mousepotamia"
"Land Beneath the Sea" (Not the "Duck" version)
"Tzig-tzag Fever"
"Dry Gulch Goofy"
"The Ghost of Black Brian"
"Uncle Wombat's Tock Tock Time Machine"
"The Midas Ring"
"The Isle of Moola-la"
"Hoosat from Another Planet"
"Mickey's Dangerous Double"
"The Magic Shoe"
"Mickey Takes Umbrage"
"A Fatal Occupation"
"The Kid Gang"
"Uncle Gudger"
"Dr. X"
"Pluto in Love Trouble"
"Li'l Davy"

Except for a very few of these titles, NONE of these have seen print in ANY USA
comic book since their ORIGINAL newspaper printing. Those that have been printed
in a comics (like WDC&S) haven't seen reprint since the earliest issues of WDC&S.
Sure, some are probably controversial, but, most are probably short stories or one-
pagers. I've read brief synospses of some of these from books like "MICKEY MOUSE
IN COLOR" and I know there are lots and lots of Bill Walsh/Floyd
Gottfredson "gags" that have never been reprinted also.

I would also love to see a large number of Romano Scarpa long stories that have
NEVER seen print in the USA!!!!

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
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