Quote from user: Charlie BrownTo the topic: I can't wait to get my first copy of this Barks collection. I don't own any complete set of any Barks collections. So this will (hopefully) be my first.
I still don't own every single Barks story. So even now, I can discover new Barks stories! I still don't own The Paul Bunyan Machine, The Loony Lunar Gold Rush, House of Haunts, Mystery of the Swamp and lots of 10-pagers.
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Topic: Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
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Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 136 -
2011-10-13 at 14:31:19
Joakim Gunnarsson
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 137 -
2011-10-13 at 16:10:06
[quote=germund]With all due respect for Don Ault and his knowledge and writing skills, I would have liked to see a US edition of the European (Scandinavian/German) Carl Barks Collection, including the truckloads of fabulous extra material
True. There is so much extra material in the Scandinavian books that I can only hope that there will be a few volumes of "appendix" material published later. But it would have been nice to have the bonus material in context, next to the stories. Anyway, I guess we all have our own vision of how a "perfect" book series would be. :)
I'm really looking forward to the FB edition!
True. There is so much extra material in the Scandinavian books that I can only hope that there will be a few volumes of "appendix" material published later. But it would have been nice to have the bonus material in context, next to the stories. Anyway, I guess we all have our own vision of how a "perfect" book series would be. :)
I'm really looking forward to the FB edition!
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 138 -
2011-10-14 at 07:47:26
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderI still don't own every single Barks story. So even now, I can discover new Barks stories!
Me too. It's always great to read an all new Barks story. I'm really happy that I still get this feeling from time to time.
Quote from user: Joakim GunnarssonAnyway, I guess we all have our own vision of how a "perfect" book series would be.
For me the Scandinavian/German collection in English with "classic colors".
But I'm really looking forward to get the Fantagraphics collection.
Me too. It's always great to read an all new Barks story. I'm really happy that I still get this feeling from time to time.
Quote from user: Joakim GunnarssonAnyway, I guess we all have our own vision of how a "perfect" book series would be.
For me the Scandinavian/German collection in English with "classic colors".
But I'm really looking forward to get the Fantagraphics collection.
Robb_K
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 139 -
2011-10-14 at 23:07:48
I'd like The Egmont "Collected Works of Carl Barks in English, with original colouring.
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 140 -
2011-10-23 at 18:56:53
Amazon Germany just canceled my order:
Quote:Der folgende Titel ist leider nicht lieferbar:
Carl Barks "Walt Disney's Donald Duck: "Lost in the Andes"
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/1606994743
In English: "This item is not available." Strange.
Quote:Der folgende Titel ist leider nicht lieferbar:
Carl Barks "Walt Disney's Donald Duck: "Lost in the Andes"
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/1606994743
In English: "This item is not available." Strange.
Debbie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 141 -
2011-11-01 at 20:17:56
I hope that in "Only a Poor Old Man" and future volumes, Fantagraphics will include material that Gladstone had found and restored to Barks' stories, like the deleted pages from "Back to the Klondike" (including Daan Jippes' inked version of Barks' pencils on two panels), "The Land Underground" and "The Golden River" and either Rosa or Jippes' two panels for "How Green Was My Lettuce" (maybe one in the story and the other as an extra?).
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 142 -
2011-11-01 at 20:23:52
^It's possible those will be added as extras. I wouldn't bet on Fantagraphics integrating that material into the stories themselves; seeing as how the point of the recoloring is to be as loyal as possible to the source material, including pages not seen on the original comics would defeat the purpose.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 143 -
2011-11-01 at 20:35:03
Has anyone gotten the second MM volume yet? I'm anxious to hear about it!
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 144 -
2011-11-01 at 22:24:22
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderHas anyone gotten the second MM volume yet? I'm anxious to hear about it!
I can't speak for those who have already got the book, obviously, but in the meantime, you can download a 19-page excerpt here. Video and Photo slideshow preview also included. Hope it helps!
Now, for some...unexpected news. Fantagraphics unveiled its Spring-Summer Catalog for next year, downloable as PDF. Highlights for Disney fans include the third volume on the Floyd Gottfredson's Library (Pages 22-23) and, more on-topic, volume 2 of the Carl Barks' Library: Uncle Scrooge's Just A Poor Old Man. (Page 32-33.)
Here's the information on Barks' 2nd Volume:
UNCLE SCROOGE CLASSICS FOR ALL AGES!
Since Fantagraphics?? first release in this series focused on Donald Duck, it is only right that the second focus on Carl Barks??s other great protagonist, and his greatest creation: The miserly, excessively wealthy Scrooge McDuck, whose giant money bin, lucky dime, and constant wrangles with his nemeses the Beagle Boys are well-known to, and beloved by, young and old.
This volume starts off with "Only a Poor Old Man", the defining Scrooge yarn (in fact his first big starring story) in which Scrooge??s plan to hide his money in a lake goes terribly wrong. Two other long-form classics in this volume include "Tralla La La" (also known as "the bottlecap story", in which Scrooge??s intrusion has terrible consequences for a money-less eden) and "Back to the Klondike", (Barks disciple Don Rosa??s favorite story, a crucial addition to Scrooge??s early history, and famous for a censored bar brawl that was restored in later editions). Each of these three stories is famous enough to have its own lengthy Wikipedia page.
Also in this volume are the full-length "The Secret of Atlantis", and over two dozen more shorter stories and one-page gags.
Newly recolored in a version that combines the warm, friendly, slightly muted feeling of the beloved classic original comic books with state-of-the-art crispness and reproduction quality, the stories are joined by another volume??s worth of extensive "Liner Notes", featuring fascinating behind-the-panels essays about the creation of the stories and analyses of their content from a world??s worth of Disney and Barks experts.
The thing is, the book is listed as having 240 pages once more. Between "Only a Poor Old Man" (March 1952) and "Tralla La" (June 1954),There is much more than 240 pages' worth of Barks' comics. And that's not even counting the suplemental material, which is said to make up 40 pages of the volume, leaving us with 200 pages reserved for comics. The plot thickens.
NOW. While the amount of Barks' total output between March 1952 and June 1954 exceeds 200 pages by far, guess what. His Uncle Scrooge output turns out to be exactly 200 pages. Now, Fantagraphics itself says that, since Lost In The Andes is Donald's show, the second volume turns the spotlight to Scrooge. Indeed, the first volume only features stories with Donald as the marquee character. With all of the information we have know, it makes sense to think "Only a Poor Old Man" will do away with Don's stories and focus entirely on those with Scrooge as the main character, regardless of chronology.
...But then Fantagraphics promises "over two dozen more shorter stories and one-page gags". Starting from the 1-pager "Osogood Silver Polish" (March 1952) and finishing with the also 1-page-gag "McDuck Takes A Dive" (March 1954), there are only 17 short Scrooge stories, with 15 of them being one-pagers.
There's also the oddity about Fantagraphics ignoring "The Menehune Mystery" (December 1953), a 32-pages adventure story, when talking about the longer tales.
Either the page count is wrong (Very unlikely) or this Library is definitely not going for a chronological approach even within the volumes themselves...Or at least, Donald stories and Scrooge stories will be separated, following their respective chronology.....My brain hurts!
I can't speak for those who have already got the book, obviously, but in the meantime, you can download a 19-page excerpt here. Video and Photo slideshow preview also included. Hope it helps!
Now, for some...unexpected news. Fantagraphics unveiled its Spring-Summer Catalog for next year, downloable as PDF. Highlights for Disney fans include the third volume on the Floyd Gottfredson's Library (Pages 22-23) and, more on-topic, volume 2 of the Carl Barks' Library: Uncle Scrooge's Just A Poor Old Man. (Page 32-33.)
Here's the information on Barks' 2nd Volume:
UNCLE SCROOGE CLASSICS FOR ALL AGES!
Since Fantagraphics?? first release in this series focused on Donald Duck, it is only right that the second focus on Carl Barks??s other great protagonist, and his greatest creation: The miserly, excessively wealthy Scrooge McDuck, whose giant money bin, lucky dime, and constant wrangles with his nemeses the Beagle Boys are well-known to, and beloved by, young and old.
This volume starts off with "Only a Poor Old Man", the defining Scrooge yarn (in fact his first big starring story) in which Scrooge??s plan to hide his money in a lake goes terribly wrong. Two other long-form classics in this volume include "Tralla La La" (also known as "the bottlecap story", in which Scrooge??s intrusion has terrible consequences for a money-less eden) and "Back to the Klondike", (Barks disciple Don Rosa??s favorite story, a crucial addition to Scrooge??s early history, and famous for a censored bar brawl that was restored in later editions). Each of these three stories is famous enough to have its own lengthy Wikipedia page.
Also in this volume are the full-length "The Secret of Atlantis", and over two dozen more shorter stories and one-page gags.
Newly recolored in a version that combines the warm, friendly, slightly muted feeling of the beloved classic original comic books with state-of-the-art crispness and reproduction quality, the stories are joined by another volume??s worth of extensive "Liner Notes", featuring fascinating behind-the-panels essays about the creation of the stories and analyses of their content from a world??s worth of Disney and Barks experts.
The thing is, the book is listed as having 240 pages once more. Between "Only a Poor Old Man" (March 1952) and "Tralla La" (June 1954),There is much more than 240 pages' worth of Barks' comics. And that's not even counting the suplemental material, which is said to make up 40 pages of the volume, leaving us with 200 pages reserved for comics. The plot thickens.
NOW. While the amount of Barks' total output between March 1952 and June 1954 exceeds 200 pages by far, guess what. His Uncle Scrooge output turns out to be exactly 200 pages. Now, Fantagraphics itself says that, since Lost In The Andes is Donald's show, the second volume turns the spotlight to Scrooge. Indeed, the first volume only features stories with Donald as the marquee character. With all of the information we have know, it makes sense to think "Only a Poor Old Man" will do away with Don's stories and focus entirely on those with Scrooge as the main character, regardless of chronology.
...But then Fantagraphics promises "over two dozen more shorter stories and one-page gags". Starting from the 1-pager "Osogood Silver Polish" (March 1952) and finishing with the also 1-page-gag "McDuck Takes A Dive" (March 1954), there are only 17 short Scrooge stories, with 15 of them being one-pagers.
There's also the oddity about Fantagraphics ignoring "The Menehune Mystery" (December 1953), a 32-pages adventure story, when talking about the longer tales.
Either the page count is wrong (Very unlikely) or this Library is definitely not going for a chronological approach even within the volumes themselves...Or at least, Donald stories and Scrooge stories will be separated, following their respective chronology.....My brain hurts!
GeoX
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 145 -
2011-11-02 at 07:09:02
Maybe this is all a misunderstanding, but it's extremely disappointing if true. I know that the problem with consulting fans about these things is that no two of us would probably agree about all the particulars of how a venture such as this one should be done...but I'm pretty sure we'd all agree that hacking up stories according to characters, making a hash out of chronology, is NOT the way to go. Dammit, Fantagraphics, are you listening to me? I have a blog, read by several people, and I am not afraid to pontificate! Fear my geeky wrath!
Robb_K
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 146 -
2011-11-02 at 14:29:33
Deviating from strict chronology (when stories were submitted), or, at least from semi-strict (when stories were first printed) is a big mistake. I doubt that even 3% of the purchasers will like it better in character-based volumes than in chronological order. The collection is more about the artist than the characters. We want to see how his artwork and thinking progressed and related to the times (or occurences in his life).
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 147 -
2011-11-02 at 15:03:19
Quote from user: Robb_KDeviating from strict chronology (when stories were submitted), or, at least from semi-strict (when stories were first printed) is a big mistake. I doubt that even 3% of the purchasers will like it better in character-based volumes than in chronological order. The collection is more about the artist than the characters. We want to see how his artwork and thinking progressed and related to the times (or occurences in his life).
Totally agree! I don't see why Fantagraphics doesn't print the stories at least chronological within the books. This is just a mess. They are doing great work with the chronological Peanuts and Mickey Mouse collections, why not with Barks?
Totally agree! I don't see why Fantagraphics doesn't print the stories at least chronological within the books. This is just a mess. They are doing great work with the chronological Peanuts and Mickey Mouse collections, why not with Barks?
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 148 -
2011-11-02 at 17:55:58
Quote from user: RichieQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderHas anyone gotten the second MM volume yet? I'm anxious to hear about it!
I can't speak for those who have already got the book, obviously, but in the meantime, you can download a 19-page excerpt here. Video and Photo slideshow preview also included. Hope it helps!
Wonderful! Can't wait to get my copy! :D
Quote from user: RichieEither the page count is wrong (Very unlikely) or this Library is definitely not going for a chronological approach even within the volumes themselves...Or at least, Donald stories and Scrooge stories will be separated, following their respective chronology.....My brain hurts!
If they'll be seperated, that would be ridiculous! Barks has only one chronology! What I'm thinking, is that you should take Fantagraphics too literally when they say "we'll try to present the stories as they were first published"! That's doesn't mean only color, but maybe they reprint the comic books entirely when they say that! That would explain most of it. The second volume will publish Four Colors 386, 456, 495, Uncle Scrooges 4, 5 and 6, if I'm right. Which is an... alternative way of publishing the BL, to say the least.
[sarcasm](I can hardly wait till we get to the Grandma Duck's Farm Friends* volume)[/sarcasm]
*Yup, 1960 might've been Barks' most productive year, but these are the worst stories he's ever done. They're not written by him, luckily.
Quote from user: GeoXI know that the problem with consulting fans about these things is that no two of us would probably agree about all the particulars of how a venture such as this one should be done...but I'm pretty sure we'd all agree that hacking up stories according to characters, making a hash out of chronology, is NOT the way to go.
I have no problems with Fantagraphics consulting fans *coughmecough*. But this is not the way to go.
Quote from user: GeoXDammit, Fantagraphics, are you listening to me? I have a blog, read by several people,
Including me (although I think you're being too negative on most stories)!
Quote from user: GeoXand I am not afraid to pontificate! Fear my geeky wrath!
Huh? What does pontificating mean? Anyway Fantagraphics, fear The Revenge of the Barksfans!
...and I'm pretty powerless, as usual. The only thing I can do is moaning and complaining on the internet. But everyone does that anyway, so it doesn't help.
I can't speak for those who have already got the book, obviously, but in the meantime, you can download a 19-page excerpt here. Video and Photo slideshow preview also included. Hope it helps!
Wonderful! Can't wait to get my copy! :D
Quote from user: RichieEither the page count is wrong (Very unlikely) or this Library is definitely not going for a chronological approach even within the volumes themselves...Or at least, Donald stories and Scrooge stories will be separated, following their respective chronology.....My brain hurts!
If they'll be seperated, that would be ridiculous! Barks has only one chronology! What I'm thinking, is that you should take Fantagraphics too literally when they say "we'll try to present the stories as they were first published"! That's doesn't mean only color, but maybe they reprint the comic books entirely when they say that! That would explain most of it. The second volume will publish Four Colors 386, 456, 495, Uncle Scrooges 4, 5 and 6, if I'm right. Which is an... alternative way of publishing the BL, to say the least.
[sarcasm](I can hardly wait till we get to the Grandma Duck's Farm Friends* volume)[/sarcasm]
*Yup, 1960 might've been Barks' most productive year, but these are the worst stories he's ever done. They're not written by him, luckily.
Quote from user: GeoXI know that the problem with consulting fans about these things is that no two of us would probably agree about all the particulars of how a venture such as this one should be done...but I'm pretty sure we'd all agree that hacking up stories according to characters, making a hash out of chronology, is NOT the way to go.
I have no problems with Fantagraphics consulting fans *coughmecough*. But this is not the way to go.
Quote from user: GeoXDammit, Fantagraphics, are you listening to me? I have a blog, read by several people,
Including me (although I think you're being too negative on most stories)!
Quote from user: GeoXand I am not afraid to pontificate! Fear my geeky wrath!
Huh? What does pontificating mean? Anyway Fantagraphics, fear The Revenge of the Barksfans!
...and I'm pretty powerless, as usual. The only thing I can do is moaning and complaining on the internet. But everyone does that anyway, so it doesn't help.
GeoX
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 149 -
2011-11-02 at 20:46:43
Pontificate: "Express one's opinions in a way considered annoyingly pompous or dogmatic." Yup--that's me, all right. :D
Actually, I WOULD kinda be looking forward to the Grandma Duck's Farm Friends volume--it's true that the stories ain't so great, but the collector in me would be excited, given how rarely they've been reprinted. I just hope they even GET to that point--the way they seem to be angling these books towards what they must see as more casual fans, it's not hard for me to imagine them not being so keen on releasing material that's really only going to appeal to diehards. Dammit, this is supposed to be a COMPLETE reprinting of the man's work.
I may be misjudging them, I hope I am; it's just that this scattershot reprint strategy is not inspiring a huge amount of confidence.
UPDATE: obviously, I'd rather have the Grandma stories integrated chronologically with the rest of the corpus rather than crammed all together--but at this point, we have to take what we can get, I suppose. And whether we even get THAT is very much up in the air.
Actually, I WOULD kinda be looking forward to the Grandma Duck's Farm Friends volume--it's true that the stories ain't so great, but the collector in me would be excited, given how rarely they've been reprinted. I just hope they even GET to that point--the way they seem to be angling these books towards what they must see as more casual fans, it's not hard for me to imagine them not being so keen on releasing material that's really only going to appeal to diehards. Dammit, this is supposed to be a COMPLETE reprinting of the man's work.
I may be misjudging them, I hope I am; it's just that this scattershot reprint strategy is not inspiring a huge amount of confidence.
UPDATE: obviously, I'd rather have the Grandma stories integrated chronologically with the rest of the corpus rather than crammed all together--but at this point, we have to take what we can get, I suppose. And whether we even get THAT is very much up in the air.
Joakim Gunnarsson
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 150 -
2011-11-02 at 23:31:30
The black and white Carl Barks Library from the 80's - 90's, published by Another Rainbow, printed Barks work title by title.
Meaning that we got all of the DD Four Color and regular issues chronologically in the first volumes, then we got all issues of US, then a set of odd titles and finally all of the WDC stories. I guess this is what FB is going for.
Another Rainbow also published their sets "out of order". Worked fine.
When I had them all I just placed them in the right order on the shelf.:)
BTW: FB have confirmed that OS 495 The Horseradish Treasure and US 4 The Menehune Mystery will be in the first US book, even though those stories weren't mentioned in the catalog.
Meaning that we got all of the DD Four Color and regular issues chronologically in the first volumes, then we got all issues of US, then a set of odd titles and finally all of the WDC stories. I guess this is what FB is going for.
Another Rainbow also published their sets "out of order". Worked fine.
When I had them all I just placed them in the right order on the shelf.:)
BTW: FB have confirmed that OS 495 The Horseradish Treasure and US 4 The Menehune Mystery will be in the first US book, even though those stories weren't mentioned in the catalog.