Quote from user: GeoXQuote from user: Review or DieI did hear that there were no plans to include Horsing Around With History, King Scrooge the First, or the Junior Woodchucks stuff. That's really a shame, that seems like it would be a very cool volume (or I suppose to some, though I suppose to some it's an appendix *rimshot*) to cap off the series.
Citation needed? That would indeed be a huge shame, especially as some of the Woodchucks stuff has never been reprinted in the US. Don't screw this up, Fantagraphics!
This was addressed very shortly after the initial announcement of this series:
Quote from user: Kim ThompsonThere are no plans for reprinting the Barks-written-but-not-drawn stories per se (I think we can all agree they are among his lesser works), but in any event, if we were to do so it would be at the very tail end of the project so it??s not a bridge we have to cross for many, many years. It would be kind of a neat book, particularly since Daan Jippes is great. But I??d rather reprint Barks BARNEY BEAR stories, for example, before that. Barks trumps all!
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So, not in the cards right now, but that could change once the series approaches its end.
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Topic: Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
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Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 256 -
2012-07-26 at 03:49:17
GeoX
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 257 -
2012-07-26 at 04:46:37
Thanks. It may be the case that "we can all agree to that," but I think we can *also* all agree that such considerations are not relevant for a project of this nature. This ain't a best-of collection. Anyway, "King Scrooge the First" is historically important, and "Horsing Around with History" is awesome; it would be ridiculous to leave those out, and in that case, there's *really* no justification for not doing the others (I think it would have to be two volumes, unless they're planning on dramatically upping their pages counts).
I certainly hope the art-only efforts are being included as well. Those--I would hope--would be slotted in chronologically, and so the question would become relevant much sooner.
I certainly hope the art-only efforts are being included as well. Those--I would hope--would be slotted in chronologically, and so the question would become relevant much sooner.
Robb_K
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 258 -
2012-07-26 at 05:21:57
Quote from user: DebbieQuote from user: Robb_KIf they don't want to include stories written by Barks but finished art drawn by Jippes or Vicar, they should, at least put Barks' blueline scribbles of those stories (They look better, in my opinion, than Jippes' finished work. Vicar's work looks little like Barks. Strobl's inkers ruined his Jr. Woodchuck work.
Vicar's work looks a lot like Barks to me, perhaps with a bit less life to it. In trying to do a perfect imitation of another artist's style, analyzing and duplicating it, some of the "life" to it gets lost. Vicar's work was good, but a bit stiff at times. Artists like Jippes and Daniel Branca could do Barksian ducks, that while not perfect copies of Barks, retained that animated feel to them. By the time Tony Strobl drew "King Scrooge", his ducks were closer to "on model" than his 1950's work, but much of that life to them was lost.
Pencil sketch stories would be interesting, but would turn away the casual readers Fantagraphics is trying to reach with these books.
I like Daan Jippes (and even Mau Heymans') inks over Barks' sketches (Hey! How could someone draw a bad drawing going over his lines. I even like my OWN inks drawing over Barks lines on Gyro Gearloose in "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" much better than any of Tony Strobl's or Kay Wright's re-drawn pages from looking at Barks' sketches. Given that Jippes' are VERY like Barks' style, and are also great drawings in their own right, I say please DO place them in a book following the last volume of Barks own self-penciled and self-inked stories.
Vicar's work looks a lot like Barks to me, perhaps with a bit less life to it. In trying to do a perfect imitation of another artist's style, analyzing and duplicating it, some of the "life" to it gets lost. Vicar's work was good, but a bit stiff at times. Artists like Jippes and Daniel Branca could do Barksian ducks, that while not perfect copies of Barks, retained that animated feel to them. By the time Tony Strobl drew "King Scrooge", his ducks were closer to "on model" than his 1950's work, but much of that life to them was lost.
Pencil sketch stories would be interesting, but would turn away the casual readers Fantagraphics is trying to reach with these books.
I like Daan Jippes (and even Mau Heymans') inks over Barks' sketches (Hey! How could someone draw a bad drawing going over his lines. I even like my OWN inks drawing over Barks lines on Gyro Gearloose in "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" much better than any of Tony Strobl's or Kay Wright's re-drawn pages from looking at Barks' sketches. Given that Jippes' are VERY like Barks' style, and are also great drawings in their own right, I say please DO place them in a book following the last volume of Barks own self-penciled and self-inked stories.
MustangRockstar
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 259 -
2012-07-26 at 18:52:29
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderNew color was used in the GL Barks Library (and in all reprints ever). It's stunning, and sometimes it creates a better atmosphere than the original, but it looks too new sometimes. The bold computer colors by Gladstone II and Gemstone were nice, but they take the 50s-ness away from Barks. The stories look like brand new! Which is good, in some way, but when every story uses the same color the art styles look so much alike. When a Barks is colored the same as a Scarpa or an early Vicar, it takes away a bit of the comic.
Truth be told, Gemstone's coloring, when they it right, was some of my favorite.
Truth be told, Gemstone's coloring, when they it right, was some of my favorite.
Coolwater
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 260 -
2012-07-26 at 21:01:20
Fantagraphics really, really should include the Jippes versions of all those Barks stories. The "Junior Woodchucks" material, "King Scrooge the First" and that handful of other stories we're referring to are in my book a more integral part of the Testament than those stories to which Barks contributed the artwork but did not write the scenarios (e.g. "Daisy Duck's Diary", "Grandma Duck's Fram Friends" and some other material). The plot of those stories is completely by Barks, the sequential arrangement is completely by Barks, the sketching of the individual panels is, the dialogues of the characters are--only the fair drawing was completed by a different artist, but on the basis of and in preferably closest artistic subordination to the sketches from the master's hand! And Daan Jippes is a gifted one who is able to give that material the final Barksian touch it needs.
Apart from that: A high-quality edition of all of those late story sketches of Barks is a desideratum, too. Something like a book that presents those sketches in the best print possible, but no final versions, neither by Strobl nor Jippes. That's of course only something for Barks geeks. It is an annoying thing that the large part of those sketches were let out in the latest European Carl Barks Collection. All sketches were at least presented in the earlier German edition of the Carl Barks Library in Color (so at least I have the stuff in my shelf in some way, ähä), but with suboptimal size and quality.
Apart from that: A high-quality edition of all of those late story sketches of Barks is a desideratum, too. Something like a book that presents those sketches in the best print possible, but no final versions, neither by Strobl nor Jippes. That's of course only something for Barks geeks. It is an annoying thing that the large part of those sketches were let out in the latest European Carl Barks Collection. All sketches were at least presented in the earlier German edition of the Carl Barks Library in Color (so at least I have the stuff in my shelf in some way, ähä), but with suboptimal size and quality.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 261 -
2012-07-28 at 16:52:25
Quote from user: MustangRockstarQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderNew color was used in the GL Barks Library (and in all reprints ever). It's stunning, and sometimes it creates a better atmosphere than the original, but it looks too new sometimes. The bold computer colors by Gladstone II and Gemstone were nice, but they take the 50s-ness away from Barks. The stories look like brand new! Which is good, in some way, but when every story uses the same color the art styles look so much alike. When a Barks is colored the same as a Scarpa or an early Vicar, it takes away a bit of the comic.
Truth be told, Gemstone's coloring, when they it right, was some of my favorite.
True. It may have looked very new, but it was awesome. I don't say the old coloring is the best one, but it is the original. Actually I think I like the new coloring more than the old one in many stories, but I'm also glad to see a collection that uses the old one. You can go both ways, in my opinion. Both have their pros and cons. (I'm contradicting myself, aren't I?)
And I just had a funny little idea. Wouldn't it look great if they published the stories by artists that draw like Barks (Hang Gliders Be Hanged, Horsing Around With History) with colors from the 1950s? That way they look more like Barks adventure stories. Or it would look strangely anachronistic.
Truth be told, Gemstone's coloring, when they it right, was some of my favorite.
True. It may have looked very new, but it was awesome. I don't say the old coloring is the best one, but it is the original. Actually I think I like the new coloring more than the old one in many stories, but I'm also glad to see a collection that uses the old one. You can go both ways, in my opinion. Both have their pros and cons. (I'm contradicting myself, aren't I?)
And I just had a funny little idea. Wouldn't it look great if they published the stories by artists that draw like Barks (Hang Gliders Be Hanged, Horsing Around With History) with colors from the 1950s? That way they look more like Barks adventure stories. Or it would look strangely anachronistic.
Hidde
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Message 262 -
2012-08-20 at 22:03:38
Where can you buy these books?
Debbie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 263 -
2012-08-20 at 22:10:59
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderAnd I just had a funny little idea. Wouldn't it look great if they published the stories by artists that draw like Barks (Hang Gliders Be Hanged, Horsing Around With History) with colors from the 1950s? That way they look more like Barks adventure stories. Or it would look strangely anachronistic.
Don't a lot of modern Duck stories ALREADY look anachronistic? In some newer stories, you'll see people in business suits and other 1950's looking clothes and cars, and jarringly, Uncle Scrooge will have a desktop computer or a laptop, or the nephews will have a boom box or an mp3 player.
Don't a lot of modern Duck stories ALREADY look anachronistic? In some newer stories, you'll see people in business suits and other 1950's looking clothes and cars, and jarringly, Uncle Scrooge will have a desktop computer or a laptop, or the nephews will have a boom box or an mp3 player.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 264 -
2012-08-21 at 11:31:36
Quote from user: DebbieQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderAnd I just had a funny little idea. Wouldn't it look great if they published the stories by artists that draw like Barks (Hang Gliders Be Hanged, Horsing Around With History) with colors from the 1950s? That way they look more like Barks adventure stories. Or it would look strangely anachronistic.
Don't a lot of modern Duck stories ALREADY look anachronistic? In some newer stories, you'll see people in business suits and other 1950's looking clothes and cars, and jarringly, Uncle Scrooge will have a desktop computer or a laptop, or the nephews will have a boom box or an mp3 player.
Yes, but it's not what I meant. I meant desktop computers in comics with 50s coloring.
Don't a lot of modern Duck stories ALREADY look anachronistic? In some newer stories, you'll see people in business suits and other 1950's looking clothes and cars, and jarringly, Uncle Scrooge will have a desktop computer or a laptop, or the nephews will have a boom box or an mp3 player.
Yes, but it's not what I meant. I meant desktop computers in comics with 50s coloring.
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 265 -
2012-08-23 at 03:55:24
Quote from user: HiddeWhere can you buy these books?
Give amazon.com a shot!
Fantagraphics has provided us with an unusually early preview for Donald Duck: A Christmas For Shacktown; a 24 pages-long PDF showcasing most of the titular story, plus the table of contents. The usual video where they flip the book's pages is absent, though. No surprise seeing as how its estimated release date on Amazon points to an early November release. Enjoy!
Give amazon.com a shot!
Fantagraphics has provided us with an unusually early preview for Donald Duck: A Christmas For Shacktown; a 24 pages-long PDF showcasing most of the titular story, plus the table of contents. The usual video where they flip the book's pages is absent, though. No surprise seeing as how its estimated release date on Amazon points to an early November release. Enjoy!
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 266 -
2012-08-23 at 07:03:42
Quote from user: RichieFantagraphics has provided us with an unusually early preview for Donald Duck: A Christmas For Shacktown; a 24 pages-long PDF showcasing most of the titular story, plus the table of contents.
Wow! That is really an early preview. Look like another great issue of this collection.
Wow! That is really an early preview. Look like another great issue of this collection.
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 267 -
2012-09-05 at 11:02:12
Quote from user: Charlie BrownQuote from user: AmazonWhile this item is available from other marketplace sellers on this page, it is not currently offered by Amazon.com because customers have told us there may be something wrong with our inventory of the item, the way we are shipping it, or the way it's described here. (Thanks for the tip!)
We're working to fix the problem as quickly as possible.
The same now for the new box set of The Complete Peanuts. What's the problem with Amazon and Fantagraphics?
We're working to fix the problem as quickly as possible.
The same now for the new box set of The Complete Peanuts. What's the problem with Amazon and Fantagraphics?
Patrick Hanifin
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 268 -
2012-09-05 at 19:42:09
The Fantagraphics old style coloring is really starting to appeal to me! I like not having colors fade from one to another which is ugly and distracting to me. The solid colors feel more like the real comics to me. I find the Fantagraphics very enjoyable to read and especially like the way the book is bound, too. I have become used to the smaller rather than the Another Rainbow album size, too, and find them more comfortable to hold. Now when I pick up an Another Rainbow album I find them almost too big and they feel flimsy without the hard cover. I guess it's what you become used to and comfortable with.
Though I have the Another Rainbow set of 6 Gyro Gearloose albums and I like having the little bigger drawings here of Helper's antics to really take them in.
Patrick Hanifin
www.PatrickHanifin.com
www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com
Though I have the Another Rainbow set of 6 Gyro Gearloose albums and I like having the little bigger drawings here of Helper's antics to really take them in.
Patrick Hanifin
www.PatrickHanifin.com
www.SqueakyCleanComedy.com
Piskito72
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Message 269 -
2012-10-10 at 07:26:12
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 270 -
2012-10-10 at 07:46:07
Quote from user: piskito72Next volume:
http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=Carl-Bark-s-Castle-Stone-by-Stone-Story-by-Story.html&Itemid=113
One of my favorite Barks stories :)
http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=Carl-Bark-s-Castle-Stone-by-Stone-Story-by-Story.html&Itemid=113
One of my favorite Barks stories :)