Quote from user: rodneyI REALLY wish they would've printed all of the stories chronologically regardless of starring character.
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Topic: Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
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Joxer96
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 391 -
2013-09-11 at 17:58:23
PhantomDuck
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 392 -
2013-09-12 at 01:54:21
I thought that every volume covers a specific period and when they all come out, you may re-arrange them on your bookshelf in chronological order. Has that plan changed ?
Review Or Die
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Message 393 -
2013-09-12 at 02:47:36
Quote from user: PhantomDuckI thought that every volume covers a specific period and when they all come out, you may re-arrange them on your bookshelf in chronological order. Has that plan changed ?
They are still doing that, but because they're separated in to Donald Duck and Scrooge, you can't ever actually get the entirety of the comics in their strict chronological order: Just "Donald Duck comics from a period of 1948-1950" vs. "Uncle Scrooge Comics from 1952-1953", roughly speaking.
It's not horrible, and it's great for mass market, but it still means that I'd save my money for Another Rainbow's collection if given the chance.
They are still doing that, but because they're separated in to Donald Duck and Scrooge, you can't ever actually get the entirety of the comics in their strict chronological order: Just "Donald Duck comics from a period of 1948-1950" vs. "Uncle Scrooge Comics from 1952-1953", roughly speaking.
It's not horrible, and it's great for mass market, but it still means that I'd save my money for Another Rainbow's collection if given the chance.
GeoX
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Message 394 -
2013-09-12 at 03:20:50
Well, but the AR publication wasn't chronological either. Plus, it was in black and white. Neither that nor the new set represents an ideal solution, the new one gets the nod from me for being colored and uncensored.
Review Or Die
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Message 395 -
2013-09-12 at 03:25:41
Quote from user: GeoXWell, but the AR publication wasn't chronological either. Plus, it was in black and white. Neither that nor the new set represents an ideal solution, the new one gets the nod from me for being colored and uncensored.
Not chronological, but it's better for me since I hate the coloring of the Fantagraphics Barks stuff with a fiery passion. It damn near ruins the collection for me.
The black and white is actually preferable for me to see Barks' art as he drew it, but a color edition like SDL's in the old... I think it was Gladstone? collection would be great for my shelf.
Not chronological, but it's better for me since I hate the coloring of the Fantagraphics Barks stuff with a fiery passion. It damn near ruins the collection for me.
The black and white is actually preferable for me to see Barks' art as he drew it, but a color edition like SDL's in the old... I think it was Gladstone? collection would be great for my shelf.
PhantomDuck
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Message 396 -
2013-09-12 at 09:49:36
Ok, I didn't know that. As for Another Rainbow, it featured some kind of order. Every volume collected stories from a specific magazine, plus it was the first effort of such magnitude. The best edition for me would be Egmont's North European edition (Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany). Too bad Gemstone didn't release it in English as well
Review Or Die
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Message 397 -
2013-09-12 at 10:11:47
I'd love to have one of the European editions, but since I only speak one language, and importing is such a nightmare... ah well. I really am glad Fantagraphics is publishing these volumes though, even if the formatting isn't what I'd hope for.
GeoX
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Message 398 -
2013-09-12 at 14:33:10
Huh. It never occurred to me that the coloring would bother people. I don't (obviously) have a problem with re-colorings in general, but in this instance, I personally would very much rather that the stories look the way they did when originally published than that they look like what some person in the here and now decides they should. It's why I have no problem with the fact that Pluto and Donald are weird colors in the Gottfredson Sunday book.
Review Or Die
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Message 399 -
2013-09-12 at 15:03:00
Well... if you look at the cover of Lost in the Andes, that one panel has five coloring errors in it. All of them deliberate, to remain true to the original comics.
1. The grass beneath Donald's feet is brown.
2. The stone is green.
3. Louie and Dewey's caps aren't colored in.
4. Donald's trim is white, which kind of makes his character design look unfinished
5. On my printing, the lower righthand corner has a either a coloring screwup where part of the green stone turns white, or a straight printing error.
Normally I'd be fine with adhering to the original colors, but when Barks had nothing to do with the colors and nothing good to say about those colors, what on earth is the point of recreating them, errors and all?
It makes the whole thing look cheap and shoddy, even in its historical accuracy, because that's what the original coloring was: stuff done on the cheap, churned out as quickly as possible without regard for consistency.
I heard Barks complimented SDL's coloring - I would much rather have seen that, as it hews closer to the creator's vision, which is what I actually care about.
1. The grass beneath Donald's feet is brown.
2. The stone is green.
3. Louie and Dewey's caps aren't colored in.
4. Donald's trim is white, which kind of makes his character design look unfinished
5. On my printing, the lower righthand corner has a either a coloring screwup where part of the green stone turns white, or a straight printing error.
Normally I'd be fine with adhering to the original colors, but when Barks had nothing to do with the colors and nothing good to say about those colors, what on earth is the point of recreating them, errors and all?
It makes the whole thing look cheap and shoddy, even in its historical accuracy, because that's what the original coloring was: stuff done on the cheap, churned out as quickly as possible without regard for consistency.
I heard Barks complimented SDL's coloring - I would much rather have seen that, as it hews closer to the creator's vision, which is what I actually care about.
Tiago
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Message 400 -
2013-09-16 at 15:50:15
Hello all,
I'm new in the forum, but a long time Disney Comics enthusiast.
Quote from user: Review Or DieI heard Barks complimented SDL's coloring - I would much rather have seen that, as it hews closer to the creator's vision, which is what I actually care about.
Just wanted to state my love for fantasgraphics colouring. Personally, I don't like computer colour ramps, like they used in Denmark. It flattens the image and makes it trivial. Computer colour ramps was the reason I also stopped reading Spiderman in the 90s.
I'm very happy with the collection as is.
I'm new in the forum, but a long time Disney Comics enthusiast.
Quote from user: Review Or DieI heard Barks complimented SDL's coloring - I would much rather have seen that, as it hews closer to the creator's vision, which is what I actually care about.
Just wanted to state my love for fantasgraphics colouring. Personally, I don't like computer colour ramps, like they used in Denmark. It flattens the image and makes it trivial. Computer colour ramps was the reason I also stopped reading Spiderman in the 90s.
I'm very happy with the collection as is.
GeoX
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Message 401 -
2013-09-16 at 18:25:57
Really, I could go either way, but I do think there's value in preserving the original colorings, which would otherwise be lost to time.
Charlie Brown
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Message 402 -
2013-09-16 at 19:41:42
Quote from user: TiagoJust wanted to state my love for fantasgraphics colouring. Personally, I don't like computer colour ramps, like they used in Denmark. It flattens the image and makes it trivial. Computer colour ramps was the reason I also stopped reading Spiderman in the 90s.
I'm very happy with the collection as is.
Agree! At first I wasn't very happy, but after reading the first book, I loved the coloring.
I'm very happy with the collection as is.
Agree! At first I wasn't very happy, but after reading the first book, I loved the coloring.
AzureBlue
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Message 403 -
2013-09-16 at 21:01:28
Quote from user: Charlie BrownQuote from user: TiagoJust wanted to state my love for fantasgraphics colouring. Personally, I don't like computer colour ramps, like they used in Denmark. It flattens the image and makes it trivial. Computer colour ramps was the reason I also stopped reading Spiderman in the 90s.
I'm very happy with the collection as is.
Agree! At first I wasn't very happy, but after reading the first book, I loved the coloring.
I was the same, upon opening the color disappointed me, but now I like it.
Still, if they made a printing of the next one with SDL coloring, I would probably get it instead
I'm very happy with the collection as is.
Agree! At first I wasn't very happy, but after reading the first book, I loved the coloring.
I was the same, upon opening the color disappointed me, but now I like it.
Still, if they made a printing of the next one with SDL coloring, I would probably get it instead
Skritter
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Message 404 -
2013-09-16 at 22:34:32
Just want to add to the chorus of support for the Fantasgraphics coloring. I loved it from the start, except the first issue over saturated the yellow which I thought should have been muted to half strength, but I much prefer this, and I am a graphic designer that uses computers as my main tool. Who cares if there is no consistency across every panel or if the coloring of the sky is yellow. It evokes a certain emotional response panel by panel, it seems to draw you into the story even more. Or maybe it is just a nostalgia thing because I grew up reading my ducks this way.
Review Or Die
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Message 405 -
2013-09-16 at 23:12:00
Quote from user: skritterJust want to add to the chorus of support for the Fantasgraphics coloring. I loved it from the start, except the first issue over saturated the yellow which I thought should have been muted to half strength, but I much prefer this, and I am a graphic designer that uses computers as my main tool. Who cares if there is no consistency across every panel or if the coloring of the sky is yellow. It evokes a certain emotional response panel by panel, it seems to draw you into the story even more. Or maybe it is just a nostalgia thing because I grew up reading my ducks this way.
It may evoke that response from you, but it doesn't from me. When I'm noticing the coloring without prompting, rather than seeing a completed picture, I end up taken from the story. And very little does more to make me notice the coloring than seeing a series of mistakes within it. Even when I show this to little kids when I'm reading comics with them, I sometimes get that question and have to make up some answer to keep the story making sense to htem.
I am certainly glad people are enjoying it, the comics are great. But in terms of historical value I have little love for something which detracts from the way the creator has actively spoken against. One could make the same argument that there's no need to have had the Back to the Klondike flashback pages inserted: After all, that's not how they were originally printed.
It may evoke that response from you, but it doesn't from me. When I'm noticing the coloring without prompting, rather than seeing a completed picture, I end up taken from the story. And very little does more to make me notice the coloring than seeing a series of mistakes within it. Even when I show this to little kids when I'm reading comics with them, I sometimes get that question and have to make up some answer to keep the story making sense to htem.
I am certainly glad people are enjoying it, the comics are great. But in terms of historical value I have little love for something which detracts from the way the creator has actively spoken against. One could make the same argument that there's no need to have had the Back to the Klondike flashback pages inserted: After all, that's not how they were originally printed.