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Topic: Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English

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Robb_K
Quote from user: AngilasmanHow many of Barks stories are adaptations of specific cartoons?
I can't remember any others, other than "trick Or Treat". Freddy Milton and Daan Jippes produced one about the cartoon short in which Huey, Dewey and Louie smoked cigars, published in Our Dutch weekly near the end of the 1970s. Also appearing in the Dutch Weekly, was a comic book adaptation of the Donald Duck short "Hockey Champ" from 1939 or 1940, which was constructed from slides of the painted cells from the film.
Roger North
There are a few Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge comics that were made into Duck Tales Episodes. Does that count?
Thomps2525
I remember the DuckTales episode that adapted a Barks plot device of using ping-pong balls to raise a sunken ship...and another that combined Barks' earthquake-causing Terries and Fermies into creatures known as Terry-Fermies.
Carl Barks contributed gags to Donald's Nephews, Donald's Cousin Gus and a few other cartoons but I agree with Robb: the only cartoon that Barks adapted as a comic-book story was Trick Or Treat. The 1942 comic book Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold, drawn and inked by Carl Barks and Jack Hannah, was adapted from Morgan's Ghost, a Mickey Mouse cartoon which was storyboarded in 1939 but never completed. Mickey, Donald and Goofy would have battled Peg-Leg Pete in trying to locate a treasure to which a parrot named Yellow Beak had the map. Bob Karp took the storyboard sketches and rewrote the tale as a vehicle for Donald and his nephews.
Angilasman
Hmmm, so Trick or Treat was the only real adaptation, huh? I could have sworn there were more, but I suppose it was just the fact that a few Gottfredson Mickey stories are cartoon adaptations confused me.
... oh, and the new amazon listings show the next Gottfredson Mickey volume as scheduled, naturally. It's great to see Fantagraphics getting all this stuff out pretty much schedule. In the past Fantagraphics has had to deal with financial troubles, sliding deadlines for artists, difficulty locating vintage material, and various other problems to content with, leading to various delayed and even canceled projects over the years. They've done nothing but spectacular work in that regard with the Disney and Peanuts material. They're really on their game.
The one thing I'm waiting for from Fanta is the second Gil Jordan volume. It's a cool, older European mystery book kinda in the Tintin style. They released one volume a few years ago and since Kim Thompson (the translator, editor, and general champion of the material) died the second volume has existed in a weird place where it's still listed as an upcoming release but has no release date attached.
Robb_K
"The Duck in the Iron Pants"- a 1940 Barks story in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories was loosely based on a Donald Duck cartoon short in which Donald, in a boat on a creek in winter, attacked his nephews' snow fort. Barks' 10-page story in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories # 88 (Jan. 1948) was partly based on a 7 min. Donald Duck cartoon short, "Truant Officer Donald". But these 2 stories were only very loosely similar to portions of thecartoons, with much more added by Barks that wasn't in the films, and his stories were much more complex, with main plots very different from those simple ones in the films.
Robb_K
Quote from user: AngilasmanA new amazon listing shows that this year's second Barks volume will be "Donald Duck: Trick or Treat." That's after this spring's "Pixilated Parrot," of course. There will also be an Uncle Scrooge box set with "Only a Poor Old Man" and "Seven Cities of Gold" bundled together.

... and this fall's Rosa release will be "The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck (Spirit Of Enterprise)"

Neat, huh? Weird that the two volumes of Life and Times will be split between two box sets initially - but I'm fairly sure Fanta will rectify that with a repackage rerelease down the line.

Both "Only a Poor Old Man" and "Seven Cities of Gold" have already been issued and I bought them. I want the box. I shouldn't have to buy two books I already have to get that box. This is EVIL, how Fantagraphics is releasing the boxed sets. We can't wait for them, because they are not announcing them until at least one, and sometimes BOTH of the individual books have been sold. And then, they don't offer the boxes to be bought separately. It's nasty to long-time customers who will want the boxes, to protect their books. I've already bought 2 books twice, just to get the boxes. Now, I have to buy 2 more I've already bought, just to get one box. And, even IF they were to sell the boxes alone, it would be dangerous o ship them, due to their light weight and flimsiness when the hard and heavy books are not inside. I'd only risk buying the loose boxes at a comics shop. And even if sold alone, I'm guessing that the added price of buying the 2 books and box separately would be significantly more than the packaged 3 items. Why didn't they simply plan for ALL books in the series to be boxed from the start, like the Gottfredson set??? This is very mean treatment of their long-time customers who want the deluxe version of complete sets. We are not just casual purchasers who will buy only a couple stray books. Many of us have been waiting 50 years for a hardbound colour set of all Barks' Disney work.
Angilasman
^They didn't intend to do Barks boxed sets at first because they're releasing the volumes out of order. It was only because of the popularity of the boxed sets that they decided to go back and do them.
It's not evil, just poorly planned because, well, it wasn't planned! They started doing it after the fact.
I'm not going for the Barks boxes because of this. For Rosa and Gottfredson the boxes are convenient, but for Barks the boxes are for people who aren't following the volumes as they're released.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Angilasman^They didn't intend to do Barks boxed sets at first because they're releasing the volumes out of order. It was only because of the popularity of the boxed sets that they decided to go back and do them.

It's not evil, just poorly planned because, well, it wasn't planned! They started doing it after the fact.

I'm not going for the Barks boxes because of this. For Rosa and Gottfredson the boxes are convenient, but for Barks the boxes are for people who aren't following the volumes as they're released.

Then they should. at least, make loose boxes available separately (at a reasonable price), to purchasers who previously bought the loose books.
Roger North
Quote from user: Thomps2525I remember the DuckTales episode that adapted a Barks plot device of using ping-pong balls to raise a sunken ship...and another that combined Barks' earthquake-causing Terries and Fermies into creatures known as Terry-Fermies.

Carl Barks contributed gags to Donald's Nephews, Donald's Cousin Gus and a few other cartoons but I agree with Robb: the only cartoon that Barks adapted as a comic-book story was Trick Or Treat. The 1942 comic book Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold, drawn and inked by Carl Barks and Jack Hannah, was adapted from Morgan's Ghost, a Mickey Mouse cartoon which was storyboarded in 1939 but never completed. Mickey, Donald and Goofy would have battled Peg-Leg Pete in trying to locate a treasure to which a parrot named Yellow Beak had the map. Bob Karp took the storyboard sketches and rewrote the tale as a vehicle for Donald and his nephews.

I don't remember an episode where they use Ping Pong Balls to raise a sunken ship. What episode was that in?
Clinton Coot
Quote from user: Thomps2525When Dell published Barks' Back To The Klondike in a 1953 comic book, they removed five and a half pages which included a flashback scene of Scrooge getting robbed and then starting a brawl in a saloon. The complete story was reprinted in Gladstone's Uncle $crooge Adventures (1996). In 1981, after five pages of the deleted art was located, Barks tried to reconstruct the other half-page from memory. He penciled the panels and Daan Jippes imked them in 1987.
To be exact, they removed five pages, and they only found and restored four pages and half, so Barks had to recreate the missing half-page (in 1981), which was later (1987) inked by Jippes. Some issues use the penciled Barks version and other issues use the inked Jippes version.
As for Four Color #456/Uncle Scrooge #2, Barks did a 5-page Scrooge story, Somethin' Fishy Here, to complete the issue after "Back to the Klondike" has been reduced.
Quote from user: Thomps2525The 1952 Donald Duck cartoon Trick Or Treat opened with the Mello-Men singing a catchy little tune called Trick Or Treat For Hallowe'en. (The Mello-Men also voiced Donald's nephews in Uncle Scrooge & Money.) While the cartoon was still in production, Carl Barks drew a 32-page comic-book adaptation. When the story appeared in Donald Duck#26, nine pages had been cut, including the opening page which depicted a graveyard and several pages which featured an ogre named Smorgie, who was not in the cartoon but was created by Barks because the cartoon did not yield enough material to fill 32 pages. The complete story, minus one panel which was missing and had to be re-created, appeared in 1986 in the second three-book set of the Carl Barks Library. That upcoming Barks collection will also have the complete version. Smorgie lives!
Like you said, Barks did 32 pages, but the version published on Donald Duck #26 had 23 pages: 10 and a half pages were removed and a new opening (one page and half) had to be created; Barks wasn't even paid for the extra pages. The restored version (first published in 1986) re-added the deleted scenes and removed the "new opening". Are you sure there was "one panel which was missing and had to be re-created"? I never heard of that.

Anyway, because the story was originally reduced from 32 to 23 pages, Barks created the 9-page story Hobblin' Goblins, which marks Gyro's third appearance.

Incidently, Donald Duck #26 is actually the first issue of Donald Duck, however it has the number #26 instead of #1 beacause all the Four Color issues named "Donald Duck" (October 1942-September 1952) were treated as being part of the series. Which is actually a mistake, since there were 28 Four Color "Donald Duck" issues, not 25.
Quote from user: Thomps2525Carl Barks contributed gags to Donald's Nephews, Donald's Cousin Gus and a few other cartoons
Indeed, Barks contributed to "Donald's Nephews" (HDL's animated debut) and "Donald's Cousin Gus" (Gus' animated debut). In both cases, the characters first appeared in Taliaferro's strips, but while there seems to be a consensus that Gus was first created for animation (cartoons tooks many months to create, unlike strips), everybody mentions Taliaferro as the creator of the Nephews. However, I found a Barks interview (1994) where Barks says that HDL were also created for animation, and they debuted in comic strips because the production of cartoons is longer.

Anyway, i see that Wikipedia has a list of "Films where Barks served as storyman or story director". These include Daisy's debut short, "Mr. Duck Steps Out" (1940).
[quote=Robb_K]"The Duck in the Iron Pants"- a 1940 Barks story in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories
That story was published in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #41, February 1944.
Thomps2525
Clinton, Carl Barks often gave away his comic-book art after the stories were published. The deleted pages from the original printing of Trick Or Treat were recovered...except for a single panel. When the complete story was printed in the Carl Barks Library, the panel was re-created by using artwork from other panels. You can read the details at
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/detc_ccus_dd0026-02.html
The complete story can be seen at http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/?p=3188
Is my memory failing me? I could have sworn the Carl Barks story involving using ping-pong balls to raise a sunken ship (The Sunken Yacht, 1949) was adapted for a DuckTales episode. A similar method was used in 1964 to raise a sunken Kuwaiti freighter. Popular legend claims that Karl Kroyer got the idea from the Barks story. He didn't. But he did manage to raise the freighter:
http://www.starch.dk/isi/kroyer/schrooge.asp
Clinton Coot
Quote from user: Thomps2525Clinton, Carl Barks often gave away his comic-book art after the stories were published. The deleted pages from the original printing of Trick Or Treat were recovered...except for a single panel. When the complete story was printed in the Carl Barks Library, the panel was re-created by using artwork from other panels. You can read the details at

http://www.seriesam.com/barks/detc_ccus_dd0026-02.html

The complete story can be seen at http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/?p=3188

Thank your for the links, there are always new things one can learn!
So the recreated panel in the 32-page version is the last panel of page 27, where Donald swallows the key for the second time and Hazel says "Stop! Stop! Thou rogue, Thou villain!": it's been a while since I last read the story, but I already knew the art for Donald is identical to that of page 28 panel 5 (where he swallows the key for the third time). Still, if the panel was lost and recreated, where does the art for Hazel come from?
Thomps2525
The image of Witch Hazel in the last panel of page 27 is the reverse of the image in the second panel of page 24. In page 27 panel, Hazel's outstretched hand has been replaced with a fist. Look carefully and you'll see that the new fist is just a reversal of Hazel's fist in the original panel. Very sneaky! "Thou rogue! Thou villain!"
Clinton Coot
Thank you, Thomps2525. I was considering the chance that they reversed a picture, but the fact that I was looking for an image were we can see both of Hazel's fists prevented me from noticing the trick (there's also the fact that the original image is bigger). It seems that the fist that replaced the stretched hand is also taken from the same picture, this time not reversed.
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