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Topic: Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English

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Argonaut
Judging by the Graham Crackers shipping list (which has a pretty excellent track record), the book will ship through Diamond next week!
http://www.grahamcrackers.com/newcomics.htm
Snowpeck
Some intelligent person at my local public library put "Lost in the Andes" on order... will definitely check it out to hold me over until Christmas money comes!
Robb_K
Amazon told me they will deliver mine next week. It had originally been scheduled for December 10.
Richie
Quote from user: Coolwater[quote=Richie]According to Fantagraphics, "Race to the South Seas" uses Barks' original artwork in this series, it ain't the Daan Jippes' version. Is it true that this hasn't happened in 60 years, as FB says?
Not absolutely. The original Barks version was also used already in the Carl Barks Collection in Scandinavia and Germany a few years ago. In the Carl Barks Collection, the strory had, however, also the colours from the original comic book, so it was a scan. The same with "Darkest Africa". The explanation from Ehapa was that it would be to complicated, unmanagable, expensive, whatever to delete the colours and just leave the black lines and spaces.

If Fantagraphics did that job and managed to re-colour the whole thing it really would be a premiere.

Now I just compared a few panels of Fantagraphics' "Race to the South Seas" from the link you gave with the original MOC Barks version in the Carl Barks Collection and with the Jippes version in a comic book. And after that it seems quite clear to me that Fantagraphics used the Jippes version, not the Barks version.


I never thanked you for this lengthy, in-depth answer. Thanks a lot, Coolwater. The guys at Fantagraphics must have realized their mistake; the comment claiming this to be Barks' original artwork has been removed.
Robb_K
I guess I'll NEVER be able to sell my 1948 and 1949 March of Comics DD issues, if I want to see Barks' drawings in those two stories, together with English text. All I can hope for now is a Dutch "Carl Barks Collection" with scans of the original comics (probably not much chance of that). I'm really angry that Fantographics would choose to use the Jippes version of "Race To The South Seas", but even more angry that they have used the TERRIBLE (mainly) Dick Flotes inked version of "Darkest Africa". Most panels of that version look NOTHING like Barks' work. I am shocked. Usually Fantographics issues are produced with dedication and care to preserve the originality of the work (especially noteworthy as Kim Thompson is such a Barks fan). I am VERY disappointed. I hope other EDITED stories are not used, and the originals will be used.
I have access to the German "Carl Barks Collection", and, so, the scans of those 2 stories. But I really don't enjoy reading the German language at all (and the words are not translated directly from Barks', in any case, but come from an altered version from the creative mind of Erika Fuchs).
Hedberg
I'll top you, Rob - Shame, shame on you, Fantagraphic!
You threw away a chance to resurrect the entire back-catalog of last century's greatest cartoonist.
Not good!
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: Robb_KI guess I'll NEVER be able to sell my 1948 and 1949 March of Comics DD issues, if I want to see Barks' drawings in those two stories, together with English text. All I can hope for now is a Dutch "Carl Barks Collection" with scans of the original comics (probably not much chance of that).
Don't count on it.

Quote from user: Robb_KI'm really angry that Fantographics would choose to use the Jippes version of "Race To The South Seas", but even more angry that they have used the TERRIBLE (mainly) Dick Flotes inked version of "Darkest Africa". Most panels of that version look NOTHING like Barks' work.
Dick Flotes? The only Dick from that era that I know is Dick Matena, but I thought he only did Big Bad Wolf stories. Who helped Jippes?

Quote from user: Robb_KI am shocked. Usually Fantographics issues are produced with dedication and care to preserve the originality of the work (especially noteworthy as Kim Thompson is such a Barks fan). I am VERY disappointed. I hope other EDITED stories are not used, and the originals will be used.
I want to know why they used the new versions, so I've decided to mail Fantagraphics on why they did this. I'll post the response soon.

Quote from user: IDear Fantagraphics,

I've heard that your new Carl Barks Library is not completely original art, but that for some stories re-inked (and sometimes censored) artwork by Daan Jippes is used. After your marvellous start on the uncensored Floyd Gottfredson library (in which Mickey tries to kill himself, for Pete's sake), why did you decide to do this? There are ways to get Barks' original artwork for your books, so why another censored library after Another Rainbow did the same in the 1980s and the 1990s? I think it's a shame.
Thanks in advance for your reply,

[name], Barks-fan
Gerd Syllwasschy
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderDick Flotes?
Dick Vlottes.
Joakim Gunnarsson
Quote from user: Robb_K[...] but even more angry that they have used the TERRIBLE (mainly) Dick Flotes inked version of "Darkest Africa".
As far as I know that story is not even in the book.
So no need to be angry. :)
Ramapith
Quote from user: Robb_KI'm really angry that Fantographics would choose to use the Jippes version of "Race To The South Seas", but even more angry that they have used the TERRIBLE (mainly) Dick Flotes inked version of "Darkest Africa".
Hey Rob (and everyone),

Just FYI, the reinker of "Darkest Africa" was Dick Vlottes (not Flotes), and "Darkest Africa" isn't actually in V1 of Fantagraphics' Donald series. When it eventually does appear, Fantagraphics fully intends to use the Barks version.

But now to the immediate situation: "Race to the South Seas." My boss and co-editor on the Gottfredson Library, Gary Groth, edits Fantagraphics' Barks Library, and he's asked me to help him explain what happened here. I would have done so on Friday, except that Gary has had some health crises in his family and was unable to confirm everything for me until this morning.

Fantagraphics' plan for their Donald V1 was to use a newly recovered all-Barks version of the "South Seas" story, because I had a lead on where original line art photostats could be found. Gary informed Frank Stajano and Leonardo Gori, the writers of the story's annotations, that the original would be in the book??and asked them to write their commentary appropriately.

Alas, I *couldn't* acquire the original version by press time??so my 2006 partial restoration (from Gemstone's WALT DISNEY TREASURES Vol 1) was used in Donald V1 instead. It's actually a mix of Barks and Jippes, and Gary amended Stajano's and Gori's article to describe that.
Unfortunately, due to a production error, the older version of the Stajano and Gori article ended up in the book??still announcing the original version of the story??and Fantagraphics' ad team picked up on this without knowing about the mistake.

Gary tells me that he'd like to apologize to Frank and Leonardo, as well as readers. I had Gary notify the ad team on Friday, which is why the Facebook comment disappeared first.

As for the rest of my involvement??I really *don't* have much to do with the Fantagraphics Barks series, but I do research story sources, and I'm still attempting to recover the all-Barks version of "South Seas." Presuming everything works out, it will make its way into a later printing of Donald V1.
Ramapith
Oops! And while I was writing my lengthy reply, Gerd and Joakim already cleared things up about Vlottes and "Darkest Africa." Thanks, fellas.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Joakim GunnarssonQuote from user: Robb_K[...] but even more angry that they have used the TERRIBLE (mainly) Dick Flotes inked version of "Darkest Africa".
As far as I know that story is not even in the book.
So no need to be angry. :)

I just assumed that if the Barks originals were not used for "Race To The South Seas", that they wouldn't be used for "Darkest Africa". I am glad to read that they WILL be used for Darkest Africa, and that the "partially-restored" version of "Race To The South Seas" will be in Vol. 1, and there may be a 2nd printing with the Barks original.

Yes, I remember now that his name is spelt: Vlottes. In any case, his inking of Barks' lines looked NOTHING like Barks.
Runner
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: Joakim GunnarssonQuote from user: Robb_K[...] but even more angry that they have used the TERRIBLE (mainly) Dick Flotes inked version of "Darkest Africa".
As far as I know that story is not even in the book.
So no need to be angry. :)

I just assumed that if the Barks originals were not used for "Race To The South Seas", that they wouldn't be used for "Darkest Africa". I am glad to read that they WILL be used for Darkest Africa, and that the "partially-restored" version of "Race To The South Seas" will be in Vol. 1, and there may be a 2nd printing with the Barks original.

Yes, I remember now that his name is spelt: Vlottes. In any case, his inking of Barks' lines looked NOTHING like Barks.

Normally I read my Carl Barks Library in Color with full satisfaction but especially for Darkest Africa I have to get my around Fine condition original from my 5000 lbs safe to read once in a while :-) .

The reprint is horrible.
Kurt Appel
If you can“t afford an original version of Darcest Africa you could buy via Amazon or Ebay the Italian comic book Tesori 5 which publicates both the English (original) version and the Italian one.

Quote from user: RunnerQuote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: Joakim GunnarssonAs far as I know that story is not even in the book.
So no need to be angry. :)

I just assumed that if the Barks originals were not used for "Race To The South Seas", that they wouldn't be used for "Darkest Africa". I am glad to read that they WILL be used for Darkest Africa, and that the "partially-restored" version of "Race To The South Seas" will be in Vol. 1, and there may be a 2nd printing with the Barks original.

Yes, I remember now that his name is spelt: Vlottes. In any case, his inking of Barks' lines looked NOTHING like Barks.

Normally I read my Carl Barks Library in Color with full satisfaction but especially for Darkest Africa I have to get my around Fine condition original from my 5000 lbs safe to read once in a while :-) .

The reprint is horrible.
Louis Lane
>Fantagraphics' plan...was to use a newly recovered all-Barks version of the "South Seas" story
Which version is included in Another Rainbow's hardcover Carl Barks Library?
http://www.brucehamilton.com/AR/Books/CBL/CBLmain.htm
LL
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