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Topic: Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
(677 messages)
Robb_K
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 151 -
2011-11-03 at 01:39:43
I know Kim Thompson, co-owner of Fantagraphics. He is a staunch Barks fan. There's no possibility that any of Barks' Disney stories will be left out. I can't believe the books' story order will be haphazard, especially as there is no set page number restriction on the volumes (they can vary, to accommodate different amounts of pages. So, - I expect that the volumes will be similar to Another Rainbow's "Carl Barks Library". collections by character/publication.
Patrick Hanifin
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 152 -
2011-11-03 at 06:45:53
I'm really looking forward to these! I mean, really looking forward!!!!!
Patrick Hanifin
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Joakim Gunnarsson
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 153 -
2011-11-03 at 07:22:51
There's a video of the first book on facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150368832948260&set=vb.183627345037675&type=2&theater
Seems that the covers to the stories are reprinted in different parts of the book than next to the stories they belong to. And the one pagers etc have been moved to the back of the book instad of keeping the stories and covers from one issue together. Odd decision, me thinks. + that there are WDC stories in the DD book.
And isn't that the Daan Jippes re-drawn version of "Race to the South Seas"?
But it sure looks nice! :)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150368832948260&set=vb.183627345037675&type=2&theater
Seems that the covers to the stories are reprinted in different parts of the book than next to the stories they belong to. And the one pagers etc have been moved to the back of the book instad of keeping the stories and covers from one issue together. Odd decision, me thinks. + that there are WDC stories in the DD book.
And isn't that the Daan Jippes re-drawn version of "Race to the South Seas"?
But it sure looks nice! :)
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 154 -
2011-11-03 at 07:32:15
First 17 pages of "Lost In The Andes", available as downloable PDF!
Many, many photos -including a look at the Introduction and the Story Notes section- here!
Joakim Gunnarsson, you're right, the order for the stories is longer tales first, ten pagers afterwards, and one-pagers at the end.
I agree wholeheartedly, that video...I need this book more than I do oxygen! Okay, maybe not. Still. HYPE!
EDIT:
Quote from user: Fantagraphics, on the video's comments section,"We are proud to say that this edition uses the re-discovered original Barks artwork for "Race to the South Seas" for the first time in 60 years! All of the stories are digitally recolored based on the original comic book coloring. Our goal was to recreate the look of the original comics as faithfully as possible from an artistic standpoint but with the crispness of modern printing technology"
Ah, to be young and filled with uncontrollable hype...
Many, many photos -including a look at the Introduction and the Story Notes section- here!
Joakim Gunnarsson, you're right, the order for the stories is longer tales first, ten pagers afterwards, and one-pagers at the end.
I agree wholeheartedly, that video...I need this book more than I do oxygen! Okay, maybe not. Still. HYPE!
EDIT:
Quote from user: Fantagraphics, on the video's comments section,"We are proud to say that this edition uses the re-discovered original Barks artwork for "Race to the South Seas" for the first time in 60 years! All of the stories are digitally recolored based on the original comic book coloring. Our goal was to recreate the look of the original comics as faithfully as possible from an artistic standpoint but with the crispness of modern printing technology"
Ah, to be young and filled with uncontrollable hype...
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 155 -
2011-11-03 at 08:15:13
Now, that I see these pictures, I can't wait to get this book! I looks great!
Does anyone know the release date? Fantagraphics does just say "November". I would like to pick it up before Thanksgiving.
P.S.: About the ordering of stories I will worry later ;)
Does anyone know the release date? Fantagraphics does just say "November". I would like to pick it up before Thanksgiving.
P.S.: About the ordering of stories I will worry later ;)
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 156 -
2011-11-03 at 08:21:59
Charlie Brown, just to make a comparison, the previews for Mickey Mouse's: Trapped in Treasure Island were unveiled on October 12, and shipped to comic shops on October 25.
Then again, MM was available from Fantagraphics itself the moment the previews went online, which isn't the case here with Barks' book.
At any rate, the previews indicate that it shouldn't take long for the book to be released!
Then again, MM was available from Fantagraphics itself the moment the previews went online, which isn't the case here with Barks' book.
At any rate, the previews indicate that it shouldn't take long for the book to be released!
Coolwater
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 157 -
2011-11-03 at 13:45:54
Quote from user: Joakim GunnarssonAnd isn't that the Daan Jippes re-drawn version of "Race to the South Seas"?
But it sure looks nice! :)
The Jippes version of "Race to the South Seas" is well done and Barks-alike, very close to the original. It is absolutely okay to use it for a magazine reprint of the story. In a Carl Barks work edition, however, I would still prefer to see a scan from the original comic book, as it was done in the European Carl Barks Collection.
The re-drawn version of "Darkest Africa" is a complete mess. Not only that it was concocted by two artists of which one doesn't really look Barksic at all, but the re-drawn version is an even bigger censorship orgy than "Voodoo Hoodoo". I hope that Fantagraphics decides to use scans from the original comic book, I am not eager to cross the paths again with that patched-up Frankenstein of "Darkest Africa".
Anyway, it would be a good thing if Daan Jippes would re-draw the story completely again for future magazine reprints. And he should re-draw it one time absolutely close to the original, and then he should draw too some slightly censored alternative pages or panels for the case that in some countries the Disney publishers don't want to publish it in the original way.
But it sure looks nice! :)
The Jippes version of "Race to the South Seas" is well done and Barks-alike, very close to the original. It is absolutely okay to use it for a magazine reprint of the story. In a Carl Barks work edition, however, I would still prefer to see a scan from the original comic book, as it was done in the European Carl Barks Collection.
The re-drawn version of "Darkest Africa" is a complete mess. Not only that it was concocted by two artists of which one doesn't really look Barksic at all, but the re-drawn version is an even bigger censorship orgy than "Voodoo Hoodoo". I hope that Fantagraphics decides to use scans from the original comic book, I am not eager to cross the paths again with that patched-up Frankenstein of "Darkest Africa".
Anyway, it would be a good thing if Daan Jippes would re-draw the story completely again for future magazine reprints. And he should re-draw it one time absolutely close to the original, and then he should draw too some slightly censored alternative pages or panels for the case that in some countries the Disney publishers don't want to publish it in the original way.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 158 -
2011-11-03 at 16:33:31
They did really great on the coloring, it's like travelling back in time 60 years!
Quote from user: CoolwaterAnyway, it would be a good thing if Daan Jippes would re-draw the story completely again for future magazine reprints. And he should re-draw it one time absolutely close to the original, and then he should draw too some slightly censored alternative pages or panels for the case that in some countries the Disney publishers don't want to publish it in the original way.
Jippes changed his style since the late eighties, when he could draw really Barks-like (and some Mice too!). These days, he's developed a more sketchy style. The Dutch artist Sander Gulien draws in a style very close to what Jippes does these days.
Quote from user: CoolwaterAnyway, it would be a good thing if Daan Jippes would re-draw the story completely again for future magazine reprints. And he should re-draw it one time absolutely close to the original, and then he should draw too some slightly censored alternative pages or panels for the case that in some countries the Disney publishers don't want to publish it in the original way.
Jippes changed his style since the late eighties, when he could draw really Barks-like (and some Mice too!). These days, he's developed a more sketchy style. The Dutch artist Sander Gulien draws in a style very close to what Jippes does these days.
Coolwater
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 159 -
2011-11-03 at 17:31:21
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderJippes changed his style since the late eighties, when he could draw really Barks-like (and some Mice too!). These days, he's developed a more sketchy style. The Dutch artist Sander Gulien draws in a style very close to what Jippes does these days.
Jippes can draw in many styles. He can draw Barksoid, Uderzoid, Franquinoid or whatever. I think Jippes can still draw pretty much Barks-alike if he wants. Some of the stories of which Barks only provided sketches he drew in the last decade, I think. "Darkest Africa", re-drawn by Jippes, would look extremely Barksian because Jippes really would just have to copy or to trace it from the finished drawings of the original comic book. That's why "Race to the South Seas" looks so very Barksian, too, I guess, more than Jippes own works or the Junior Woodchuck stories. If one doesn't know that the re-drawn version "Race to the South Seas" is not original Barks, one doesn't recognize it.
Jippes can draw in many styles. He can draw Barksoid, Uderzoid, Franquinoid or whatever. I think Jippes can still draw pretty much Barks-alike if he wants. Some of the stories of which Barks only provided sketches he drew in the last decade, I think. "Darkest Africa", re-drawn by Jippes, would look extremely Barksian because Jippes really would just have to copy or to trace it from the finished drawings of the original comic book. That's why "Race to the South Seas" looks so very Barksian, too, I guess, more than Jippes own works or the Junior Woodchuck stories. If one doesn't know that the re-drawn version "Race to the South Seas" is not original Barks, one doesn't recognize it.
GeoX
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 160 -
2011-11-04 at 02:00:27
"Race to the South Seas" does indeed look very Barksian. On the other hand, his Junior Woodchucks redraws really don't look Barksian at all, to my eyes. Not that I don't like them, but it's a bit much for them to be constantly publicized as being "IN THE CLASSIC BARKSIAN STYLE."
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 161 -
2011-11-04 at 03:10:27
According to Fantagraphics, "Race to the South Seas" uses Barks' original artwork in this series, it ain't the Daan Jippes' version. Is it true that this hasn't happened in 60 years, as FB says?
Coolwater
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 162 -
2011-11-04 at 13:49:41
Quote from user: RichieAccording to Fantagraphics, "Race to the South Seas" uses Barks' original artwork in this series, it ain't the Daan Jippes' version. Is it true that this hasn't happened in 60 years, as FB says?
Not absolutely. The original Barks version was also used already in the Carl Barks Collection in Scandinavia and Germany a few years ago. In the Carl Barks Collection, the strory had, however, also the colours from the original comic book, so it was a scan. The same with "Darkest Africa". The explanation from Ehapa was that it would be to complicated, unmanagable, expensive, whatever to delete the colours and just leave the black lines and spaces.
If Fantagraphics did that job and managed to re-colour the whole thing it really would be a premiere.
Now I just compared a few panels of Fantagraphics' "Race to the South Seas" from the link you gave with the original MOC Barks version in the Carl Barks Collection and with the Jippes version in a comic book. And after that it seems quite clear to me that Fantagraphics used the Jippes version, not the Barks version.
Particularly I looked at the two panels where Donald and the kids have entered the island and meet the natives. Some differences between the Jippes version (that one can also see with the links of the Fantagraphics version) and the Barks MOC version in the Carl Barks Collection:
1) There is a green (thus white) palm leaf hanging over the "cannibal" most left in the picture. In the Barks version all leaves there are "shadowed" (black).
2) The natives have black-coloured hair in the Barks version, but not in the Jippes version
3) The exact structuring of the tree trunk, for example, is in the Fantagraphics version also identical to that of the Jippes version, not of the Barks version.
4) Donald's drops of sweat in the next panel, in all their exactness, are also identical to the Jippes, but not to the Barks version.
5) The forefinger of Donald's right hand is slightly above the sea horizon line, like in the Jippes version. In the Barks version, the finger is under the line.
6) The fingers of the nephew's left hand are a bit different between the Barks and the Jippes version, and Fantagraphics shows also here the Jippes variant.
Not absolutely. The original Barks version was also used already in the Carl Barks Collection in Scandinavia and Germany a few years ago. In the Carl Barks Collection, the strory had, however, also the colours from the original comic book, so it was a scan. The same with "Darkest Africa". The explanation from Ehapa was that it would be to complicated, unmanagable, expensive, whatever to delete the colours and just leave the black lines and spaces.
If Fantagraphics did that job and managed to re-colour the whole thing it really would be a premiere.
Now I just compared a few panels of Fantagraphics' "Race to the South Seas" from the link you gave with the original MOC Barks version in the Carl Barks Collection and with the Jippes version in a comic book. And after that it seems quite clear to me that Fantagraphics used the Jippes version, not the Barks version.
Particularly I looked at the two panels where Donald and the kids have entered the island and meet the natives. Some differences between the Jippes version (that one can also see with the links of the Fantagraphics version) and the Barks MOC version in the Carl Barks Collection:
1) There is a green (thus white) palm leaf hanging over the "cannibal" most left in the picture. In the Barks version all leaves there are "shadowed" (black).
2) The natives have black-coloured hair in the Barks version, but not in the Jippes version
3) The exact structuring of the tree trunk, for example, is in the Fantagraphics version also identical to that of the Jippes version, not of the Barks version.
4) Donald's drops of sweat in the next panel, in all their exactness, are also identical to the Jippes, but not to the Barks version.
5) The forefinger of Donald's right hand is slightly above the sea horizon line, like in the Jippes version. In the Barks version, the finger is under the line.
6) The fingers of the nephew's left hand are a bit different between the Barks and the Jippes version, and Fantagraphics shows also here the Jippes variant.
GeoX
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 163 -
2011-11-04 at 17:13:32
Not that I care especially about this in itself, but really now. I assume this is just confusion on the part of whoever wrote the copy rather than intentional deception, but I would prefer that the people embarking on this project know exactly what they're doing/talking about.
Richie
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 164 -
2011-11-11 at 07:24:57
Charlie Brown
Fantagraphics to Publish Barks Library in English
Message 165 -
2011-11-11 at 08:54:48
Quote from user: RichieIt's finally here, performing for you, if you know the words, you can join in too!
Great news!! That gives me hope to pick it up in the US next week :)
Great news!! That gives me hope to pick it up in the US next week :)